# Finnaly received my Surge **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 10, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044 "2013-10-10T21:55:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/1 "2013-10-10T21:55:20Z")
well I finnaly got my surge in my first unresponsive yoyo, It seems heavy and tiring when practicing my double or nothings and matrix im trying to learn, should I have jut went with DM2 open to suggestions ---
**Author:** ![Schnayke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f14d63/32.png) [@Schnayke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Schnayke)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/2 "2013-10-10T22:04:11Z")
Lol no. Yoyos are yoyos man. Just use it. a week from now you won’t even notice any difference. ---
**Author:** ![BeneTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BeneTan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BeneTan)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/3 "2013-10-10T22:18:41Z")
you´ll do just fine with the surge… its a little tough to get into yoyoing at first, but once you got the very basics down, it will pay off greatly! so just keep practicing and a surge is just fine for the start ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/4 "2013-10-10T22:23:01Z")
Only thing I’m going to recommend is getting shims for it. And if you end up wanting something else I’d go with the Hitman X over the DM2. ---
**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/5 "2013-10-10T22:32:01Z")
> [@MYNAMEISZen](#): > > Only thing I’m going to recommend is getting shims for it. And if you end up wanting something else I’d go with the Hitman X over the DM2. Did-e-yo style shims? And .10" or .30" shims? ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/6 "2013-10-10T22:47:14Z")
shims for the surge? I haven’t heared anything of them? what are they used for? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/7 "2013-10-10T22:49:26Z")
> [@dnj89](#): > > shims for the surge? I haven’t heared anything of them? what are they used for? They are used to widen the gap of the yoyo, thereby making it less responsive. Many complain about how the Surge’s gap is especially thin when compared to its other modern day counterparts. Find 'em here: Dif-e-Yo- [Dif-E-Yo Shims – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/340/Dif-E-Yo-Shims) YYJ- [YYJ Shims – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/57/YYJ-Shims) ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/8 "2013-10-10T22:51:34Z")
so im assuming that the thick shims make the gap wider? ---
**Author:** ![Big\_cat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/big_cat/32/877_2.png) [@Big\_cat](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Big_cat)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/9 "2013-10-10T22:53:07Z")
> [@dnj89](#): > > so im assuming that the thick shims make the gap wider? Both sizes make the gap wider. It just depends how much wider you want it/how unresponsive you want the yoyo to be. ---
**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/10 "2013-10-10T23:58:29Z")
> [@dnj89](#): > > shims for the surge? I haven’t heared anything of them? what are they used for? They are thin metal circles that sit between the bearing and the yoyo half to wide the gap. ---
**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/11 "2013-10-11T00:01:50Z")
> [@Big cat](#): > > They are used to widen the gap of the yoyo, thereby making it less responsive. Many complain about how the Surge’s gap is especially thin when compared to its other modern day counterparts. > > Find 'em here: > Dif-e-Yo- [Dif-E-Yo Shims – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/340/Dif-E-Yo-Shims) > > YYJ- [YYJ Shims – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/57/YYJ-Shims) That’s sort of what draws me to he surge I like its semi high walls and thin gap to play a little on the responsive side and offers me a more old school yoyo feel. Instead of shim run an extremely thin string like the g-string’s solo once it breaks in it becomes incredibly thin. ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/12 "2013-10-11T00:21:04Z")
> [@Snafu](#): > > Did-e-yo style shims? And .10" or .30" shims? I like thin YYJ Shims in it with normal kitty. Just wide enough gap for string to easily pass and just thin enough for great trick binds. ---
**Author:** ![Snafu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/snafu/32/1399_2.png) [@Snafu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Snafu)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/13 "2013-10-11T00:28:52Z")
> [@MYNAMEISZen](#): > > I like thin YYJ Shims in it with normal kitty. Just wide enough gap for string to easily pass and just thin enough for great trick binds. I have dif-e-yo shims they are metal and own them in both two sizes, so I guess my question is how do those differ from the yyj shims and sizes? The listing doesn’t say if yyj are plastic or metal nor does it give thickness other the gray is thin and red (or was it orange?) is thick. Thanks for any info if you happen to know the answers. ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/14 "2013-10-11T00:46:33Z")
ive been using poly string on it today and its getting really twisty does that mean I need to replace already? and my surge doesn’t respond at all unless I bind it so… and these shims you speak of, I seen the two types the colored ones and the grey and black ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/15 "2013-10-11T00:48:00Z")
@myname why do you say hitman over the DM2??? ive been looking close at them ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/16 "2013-10-11T00:52:03Z")
String tension will worsen as it is used more, but you do certain tricks to loosen it. ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/17 "2013-10-11T00:54:11Z")
what string tricks losen it? ---
**Author:** ![MYNAMEISZen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/18 "2013-10-11T01:11:01Z")
> [@dnj89](#): > > @myname why do you say hitman over the DM2??? ive been looking close at them The Hitman X is a lot more refined, the wall isn’t straight up its at a slight angle, so you’ll get longer spin times, also it’s a newer design so it will most likely play smoother. Just my opinion, I don’t actually see a big difference between the two but that little difference on the Hitman seems like it would make it outplay the DM2 ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/19 "2013-10-11T01:13:19Z")
how is string play with hitman? ---
**Author:** ![dnj89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f17d59/32.png) [@dnj89](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dnj89)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044/20 "2013-10-11T01:18:41Z")
and does it come with a c bearing? [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/finnaly-received-my-surge/60044.md?page=2)