# Favorite Yoyofactory Throw
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [May 12, 2019, 5:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235 "2019-05-12T05:08:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/62 "2019-05-14T01:36:16Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Much more a fan of the Tom Kuhn replaceable wood axle sleeves. This whole “we must make _everything_ from wood or it isn’t pure!” goal is so misguided in my opinion. Wood is good, I like wood, but there are very good physics reasons we don’t build every dang thing in the world from wood any more.
I’m not sure if wood purity is behind what TMBR does. I have had trouble with my woodthread axles too, but I still think they are a really good idea.
I’ve heard with a bit of tinkering and know-how, they don’t have the falling apart problem. I just like the yoyos I buy to work straight out of the box.
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### Author:  [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/63 "2019-05-14T01:54:53Z")
Wow they work great for me. Pretty sure Colin isn’t doing them that way to “keep it pure”. It’s a cool, innovative way for him to use his woodworking skills to make playable art, and to have a literal hand in every aspect of the craft. He was using steel axles with replaceable cylindrical sleeves for awhile, and those are also tricky to get consistent. This was how his process evolved. Just because it’s not toward your ideal doesn’t make it inane. Is it so impossible to fathom that you haven’t thrown them enough to get the appeal?
It’s not always about making the easiest device to use or to learn to use. That’s a big part of throwing wood anyway. We don’t expect to be great fixed axle players without putting in serious time, and some of us really value the effort that goes into getting the most out of our tools/toys.
But I know you may disregard what I say out of hand, since I DO also love the Legend (both the original and the Wing). It’s super rewarding breaking those in and seeing how they change as you play them. Oh-Gee might be my favorite YYF woodie though. I was playing around with Conde, Tessa, and Ahmad at Worlds, and Tessa drilled 3 straight Double or Nothings on it. That yo-yo’s gap is about a millimeter lol.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/64 "2019-05-14T02:11:42Z")
> [@edhaponik](#):
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> This was how his process evolved. Just because it’s not toward your ideal doesn’t make it inane. Is it so impossible to fathom that you haven’t thrown them enough to get the appeal?
You’re [an ent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ent), man. You’ve got your own thought process. Wood is your religion. It’s not _my_ religion, but that’s OK.
For me the platonic ideal of the ultimate wood axle yo-yo is definitely the TK 3-in-1 No Jive. It’s superb engineering, and worlds ahead of what TMBR is doing.
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### Author:  [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/65 "2019-05-14T02:11:55Z")
Right now, my favorite is likely the Edge Beyond/Edge, and the GenXs for that pocketability/performance factor.
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### Author:  [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/66 "2019-05-14T02:15:34Z")
Put me in the Legend Wing camp. That thing is really surprisingly nice for a $10 fixie, so it’s in my regular rotation. Other than that it’s a glossy-finished Shutter.
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### Author:  [@AaronW](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AaronW)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/67 "2019-05-14T02:39:13Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> Based on my experience with those,
In all honesty Jeff, you really don’t have all that much experience.
Not saying that to attack, or anything like that, just mentioning a fact. I’ve had more issues with No Jives than I’ve ever had with my wood thread TMBR’s. And that’s not knocking TK in any way. No Jives are easily in my all time top 5 yoyos. So to say the wood thread axle should be “put back inside the box” just doesn’t make sense, no matter how highly you regard TK.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/68 "2019-05-14T02:52:47Z")
> [@AaronW](#):
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> So to say the wood thread axle should be “put back inside the box” just doesn’t make sense, no matter how highly you regard TK.
🤷♂️ I’ve had my 2018 Eh come apart _so_ many times, and I hate fiddling with it. Throwing that thing just stresses me out.
I’ve heard the party line that “fiddling with it is the point” but man that is just not my idea of a good time, and I _never_ have to fiddle with the ~12 TK / BCs in my stable, not like that, out of fear it’s going to fly across the room on every tenth throw!
Anyways, back on topic, I’d _love_ to see a big company do a fancy TK style engineered wood yo-yo.
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### Author:  [@edhaponik](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/edhaponik)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/69 "2019-05-14T03:00:12Z")
Party line: It’s not all supposed to be easy. Not the playing, not the tinkering and modding, not the figuring out what will keep a yo-yo together and what will make it fly apart. You might assume that everyone wants it to be easy… but most of the wood players like a little challenge. We want to tweak our throw or our setup to find the way through to the experience we want.
And No Jives are great (I have one tattooed lol), but there has been no lack of inconsistency there. When that was all I threw, I would spend an hour+ setting up a new one - sanding the walls, setting the hex to align the grain, shimming the gap, breaking in the axle… Even the mighty No Jive benefits from the transformative power of TLC.
You’ve been around a minute. But since day one, you have absolutely acted as though you understand what every yo-yo player wants - the most sleep time, the fastest progress, the smoothest experience. But that’s not. Always. It.
But yeah back on topic, I’d love to see updated No Jives made by anyone who could license them.
Also… 07 small bearing 888. Amazeballs.
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### Author:  [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/70 "2019-05-14T03:02:17Z")
> [@edhaponik](#):
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> But yeah back on topic, I’d love to see updated No Jives made by anyone who could license them.
> Also… 07 small bearing 888. Amazeballs.
100% agreement on this part, if not the rest :wink:
What worries me is I think TK is gonna _really_ die. Like forever. And that’s a big loss.
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### Author:  [@Dust](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Dust)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/71 "2019-05-14T03:33:59Z")
Doomsday Genesis is my #1 YYF for me. Far and away my favorite.
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### Author:  [@FiveIronBrian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FiveIronBrian)
#### Post date: [May 14, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/72 "2019-05-14T14:03:09Z")
Aviator II was not necessarily a step backwards. It’s a very different yo-yo. I like the way it looks better; I _really wanted_ to like it better. But after getting it, I kept going back to the original Aviator. I like area around the response pads better (low, rounded wall), I like the weight distributed into the rims better, and I like the rounder step from the rims into the gap. It just feels so smooth and solid in the hand and on the throw.
The biggest thing is that on a rough/wobbly regen, the pronounced step on the Aviator 2 just whacks the string (and your hand) harder and creates unintended response. The Aviator 1 is more forgiving in that aspect. It actually has more of a rounded V shape.
For the record, the Neo Genesis would have been how I would have designed the Aviator II if that shape was the way they were going. Of course, it was a signature model…
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### Author:  [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/73 "2019-05-19T05:43:25Z")
> [@codinghorror](#):
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> What worries me is I think TK is gonna _really_ die. Like forever. And that’s a big loss.
Yeah, it really really is.
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### Author:  [@photogeek](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/photogeek)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2019, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/74 "2019-05-19T05:46:49Z")
> [@yyfben2.deactivated](#):
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> We just got more stained Legend wing in. I want to do some fancy Kendama ballesque stripes in the future too.
Yes, this. Do it.
Legend wing is an outstanding value for $10. Playable and enjoyable.
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### Author:  [@RyoCanCan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyoCanCan)
#### Post date: [May 19, 2019, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/favorite-yoyofactory-throw/302235/75 "2019-05-19T06:12:04Z")
So.
Now that I’ve played a Monster for a week or so, I have to give it my fave position. I’m having a lot more fun with it than with a WAngle. Really can’t put it down :joy:
 
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