# Fake Throws

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 13, 2021, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562 "2021-07-13T09:29:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/63 "2021-11-23T02:25:56Z")

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I see, couldn’t find anything on it just now, I’ll ask the guy and see what he says, just be sure.

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/64 "2021-11-23T02:27:29Z")

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Looks extremely similar to the Diptych though so it’s possible they just used a different name for the fake. As far as I’m aware there is no A-RT yoyo called the Chassis.

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**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/65 "2021-11-23T02:37:26Z")

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There are a few differences in the hub between the Diptych and this yoyo though. I think they just made their own version of the Diptych and tried to pass it off as an A-RT so it would sell better. The people in China wouldn’t know any better.

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/66 "2021-11-23T02:59:50Z")

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It’s pretty common for fake/bootleg products (yo-yos or not) to not to be exactly like the original.

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**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/67 "2021-11-23T09:49:22Z")

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I meant their fake diptych. It wouldn’t make much sense for them to sell a fake diptych and sell another yoyo that is another fake diptych under a different name, the other product wouldn’t sell since people can just buy the fake diptych.

Thus, it’s either a copy of another yoyo or prototype from A-RT or they’re just trying to sell their own diptych inspired yoyo.

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/68 "2021-11-23T11:48:08Z")

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It’s not an A-RT proto lol. The Diptych/Triptych series is manufactured by One Drop for A-RT so if it were a leaked proto the CAD would have to have been leaked by either of them, neither of which I see happening.

I’m pretty adamant the “Chassis” is a fake Diptych until I hear otherwise from the source. The Chassis and Fake-tych are not necessarily made or designed by the same people. And even if they are, bootlegs don’t have to make sense. Look at all the misspelled bootleg Adidas clothing for example.

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**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/69 "2021-11-23T15:13:27Z")

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This is what he said: [(full convo)](https://imgur.com/a/lfeqDcu)

Canvas came first, then Chassis, then Jensen Kimmit founded A-RT. Chassis was sort of like a transition before JK founded his company, and i don’t think it was ever released for sale.

He took the reference from a photo that was posted on JK’s instagram (but now it’s no where to be found… I can’t even find his account =\_=#) So I can’t say for sure, it could just be something JK made for himself personally or it’s a prototype.

Best way to confirm this is with Jensen, but I have no idea how XD

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**Author:** ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2021, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/70 "2021-11-23T17:44:19Z")

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Interesting! Now that it was brought up I do remember that photo, it got posted in the “Show off your A-RT” thread awhile back. I guess the Chassis never made it to production so the only way to play one would be to become really good friends with A-RT and try a proto of one if they still had it, or buy one of the knock offs. I’ll have dig up that post and add it here.

I don’t think Jensen has a personal Instagram, but his art (not a-rt) IG is @payblopicasso ; he also occasionally posts under the @a.returntops IG as well.

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**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/71 "2023-04-17T16:26:56Z")

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Anyone notice these? I know Hinemosu is getting a lot of hype, but when its too good to be true, Its…

 ![Screenshot_20230417_101745_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/5/e/75e7663d7c0581051869dca775afc64c73ca21d2.jpeg)

> **[Hinemosu](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/hinemosu-yoyo-by-turning-point?variant=41967374008510)**
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> Turning Point presents Takeshi Matsuura's newest signature model - the Hinemosu! Based on the shape of Takeshi's previous models, Colony and Mustang, the Hinemosu has a familiar look with a completely new construction. It features Titanium rings on...

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**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/72 "2023-04-17T17:09:07Z")

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Apparently if u buy 30 u get a big discount XD

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/b/d/7bd5724a2c061cc15c6ef6db4e018440d13fc400.jpeg)

Totally forgot about this thread… gonna do an update soon…

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**Post date:** [April 17, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/73 "2023-04-17T17:46:28Z")

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@Exmime they have Hinemosus, 420, Cliffs and Canvases in big batches as it seams. Canvases sold out in matter of no time so they will probably pop up everywhere soon.

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**Author:** ![krq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/krq/32/139217_2.png) [@krq](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/krq)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/74 "2023-04-26T18:59:43Z")

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Just ordered 420 on aliexpress. Let’s see how it goes. They still have green and red 420s + some canvases  
hehe

![pepe-greetings-greetings-pepe](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/8/5/585bc8090ea9939fa0f8f677534c6d87d4b204bf.gif)

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/75 "2023-04-26T19:05:24Z")

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ill admit ive bought a couple of these fake yoyos due to the price being great. some ended up being too good to be true some halfway decent. in the end i would rather support the legitimate companies than buy rips and clones of others hard work but ill be the first to admit i see a cheap too good to be true yoyo i often hit buy…

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**Author:** ![Niki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/niki/32/191426_2.png) [@Niki](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Niki)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/76 "2023-04-26T19:10:44Z")

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Jks aside these fakes typically have design differences so most of them can be identified… I’ll also admit I bought some too despite creating this thread 😶

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/77 "2023-04-26T19:13:03Z")

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idk… Looks solid to me. The photo is not mine

 ![A24c0cc9039184ac5ad66db9a9b33f83dY](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/f/9/4f93a7c69060e80cd658426194ed9f643eb1780d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![LX\_Emergency](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lx_emergency/32/149227_2.png) [@LX\_Emergency](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LX_Emergency)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/78 "2023-04-26T19:16:50Z")

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Always interesting to see these discussions in other communities.

The knife collecting hobby also sees a lot of fakes.

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**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/79 "2023-04-26T19:33:59Z")

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What’s this one supposed to be, Speedaholic? Dove? Lol

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/80 "2023-04-26T19:34:23Z")

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Antidote

Or maybe plstc idk

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**Author:** ![LeftyThrower24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leftythrower24/32/264593_2.png) [@LeftyThrower24](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeftyThrower24)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/81 "2023-04-26T19:36:35Z")

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I think you’re on it with the Antidote, could be a mix of all em lol

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-throws/341562/82 "2023-04-26T19:37:32Z")

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As others have said, it’s probably best not to support these guys. That being said, I’m less offended by people who sell these fakes as so-called “clones” than with people who try to pass these off as the real deal.

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