# Fake Binds

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\
**Created:** [July 20, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463 "2009-07-20T13:33:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![catorameus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catorameus/32/175_2.png) [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/1 "2009-07-20T13:33:05Z")

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I was surfing the internet and found this article.

> **[Fake Binds](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Fake_Binds)**
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> Fake binds are a new way to bind created by Joshua Yee. Instead of binding the string around the axle, you pinch the string and pull your throwhand up, This makes the string wrap with the spin of the yoyo around the axle. This method of binding works...

The description was confusing, so I was wondering if anyone here has a tutorial for it? I tried and couldn’t find anything on it.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/2 "2009-07-20T13:37:55Z")

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Oh, that’s easy.

Didn’t Jayyo make that up?

What you do, is you do a Trapeze. Mainly for a dead Yo-Yo. Pinch the loop with your non-throwhand, and pull up on your throwhand, causing the Yo-Yo to spin, and quickly grip and wind.

There is a video of this on YouTube. Not sure where, but it’s on here, too. :wink:

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/3 "2009-07-20T13:49:05Z")

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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmf_dG2ZPQ)

Do it in a backspin mount. (Sleeper - Trapeze. Breakaway - Braintwister mount.)

This is a very effective bind, they are very tight. If you saw my stop and go tutorial for ihateMatt, i used fake binds there. I actually use them whenever my sleeper is dying, because its a 100% success rate with no slips.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/4 "2009-07-20T13:52:24Z")

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Hey!

You found it! 🙂

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**Author:** ![catorameus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catorameus/32/175_2.png) [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/5 "2009-07-20T14:10:38Z")

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> [@rsmod123](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmf\_dG2ZPQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewmf_dG2ZPQ)
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> Do it in a backspin mount. (Sleeper - Trapeze. Breakaway - Braintwister mount.)
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> This is a very effective bind, they are very tight. If you saw my stop and go tutorial for ihateMatt, i used fake binds there.

:o

So, all this time I’ve been using the fake bind? Cool! 😃 I agree. The bind is really tight.  
Thanks for the video!

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/6 "2009-07-20T14:34:43Z")

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One thing.

Not yet sure on this, but wouldn’t you need a responsive Yo-Yo to do it, so it would snag and wind?

I did it with my eight8eight, and it wouldn’t even wind one bit.

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/7 "2009-07-20T14:41:03Z")

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> [@Spencer\_L](#):
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> One thing.
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> Not yet sure on this, but wouldn’t you need a responsive Yo-Yo to do it, so it would snag and wind?
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> I did it with my eight8eight, and it wouldn’t even wind one bit.

Didn’t you see my stop and go tutorial? I was doing it for stop and go on my PGM.

You can do this on unresponsive yoyos. Thats the point of a bind.

You need good tension, and a backspin mount. If you are not in a backspin mount, its not gonna work. It works on my Meteor, which has a wider gap than the 888 I believe.

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**Author:** ![dcgreen97](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dcgreen97/32/210_2.png) [@dcgreen97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dcgreen97)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/8 "2009-07-20T15:07:25Z")

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Joshua Yee… Jayyo!!! WOW he is on YoYowiki!!!

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**Author:** ![catorameus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catorameus/32/175_2.png) [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/fake-binds/4463/9 "2009-07-20T15:10:14Z")

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> [@Spencer\_L](#):
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> One thing.
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> Not yet sure on this, but wouldn’t you need a responsive Yo-Yo to do it, so it would snag and wind?
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> I did it with my eight8eight, and it wouldn’t even wind one bit.

Yeah, this should work on unresponsive yo-yos. I do it all the time with my DM. Just make sure that you’re in a backspin mount. It works if you’re not in one, though, but it wouldn’t be very tight and it’s too difficult.
