# Empathy Noir vs Klondike **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [October 7, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350 "2024-10-07T13:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AraitBlyke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/araitblyke/32/310150_2.png) [@AraitBlyke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AraitBlyke)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/1 "2024-10-07T13:08:33Z")
Hi there, Looking for to buy my first bimetal yoyo, I’ve already have shortcut and speedaholic XX. I want a lot of power and stability, which one will be better? From the pictures they look very similar. Klondike plus shipping from USA is the same price as Noir from Eu so that’s not a point. ---
**Author:** ![GTDropKnot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gtdropknot/32/212400_2.png) [@GTDropKnot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GTDropKnot)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/2 "2024-10-07T13:20:12Z")
Both of those are going to have a ton of power and stability. Neither is the wrong choice. Just listen to your heart and you’ll know which one to decide on. ---
**Author:** ![Albertino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/albertino/32/302953_2.png) [@Albertino](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Albertino)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/3 "2024-10-07T13:21:27Z")
I had both, still think the Klondike is a tiny bit better, both in performance and comfort on the hand. The noir is a great yoyo but is a bit “sharp” at the edge and the shape itself, it is insanely good (I mean the 2nd in the world won with it lol) but as matter of feelings the Klondike win both in stability, rejections and comfort, I actually regret to have sold mine ---
**Author:** ![fradiger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fradiger/32/66850_2.png) [@fradiger](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fradiger)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/4 "2024-10-07T14:44:43Z")
Noir IMO, the larger pads are enough to make me move off the klondike ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/5 "2024-10-07T17:24:55Z")
Imo the Noir is a bit heftier, longer spinning and more stable than the Klondike (which is also still very good at all those). The Klondike has a middle ground pacing to it and is faster and more manoeuvrable than the Noir which I would say is on the slower side. As Albertino said, the Noir’s rims are quite sharp so it can be pretty sore on a bad catch. I do like the blasted rims option on the Noir though. I’m always a fan of blasted rims. They’re both great and it’ll depend on what your preference is and they are somewhat similar yoyos. Personally, I prefer the Klondike for general play as it is a bit more generalist/less extreme. However, the Noir is currently my go to yo-yo for learning new tricks due to just how long spinning and stable it is along with the blasted rims helping to mask mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![AraitBlyke](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/araitblyke/32/310150_2.png) [@AraitBlyke](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AraitBlyke)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/6 "2024-10-07T19:14:44Z")
Longer spinning time talks to me but unfortunately lasts only pink ones… Maybe something different ? my goals: - super long spin time - slower side - easy to control ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/7 "2024-10-07T19:40:20Z")
Ekta! ---
**Author:** ![Lex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lex/32/1599_2.png) [@Lex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lex)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/8 "2024-10-07T20:00:49Z")
Imo the Plasma Crash fits that description quite well. If I were to compare it to the Noir/Klondike I would say that it plays heavier, a bit slower and less manoeuvrable (I think a tad longer spinning and negligible stability difference) than the Noir and it also has blasted rims. It’s my other current go to “let’s learn a trick” yo-yo even if I don’t personally use it too much during casual sessions. ---
**Author:** ![Lido](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/lido/32/173650_2.png) [@Lido](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lido)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/9 "2024-10-07T20:20:27Z")
This looks to be in the ballpark, though heavier: > [@Enjoy Circle: the Aurus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/enjoy-circle-presents-the-aurus/411365): > > Hello friends! Finally I’m proud to announce release of the Aurus - our’s brand Enjoy Circle first yoyo! In developing Aurus our goal was to make a quality, confident and strong in play bimetal, but at the same time that it was not deprived of unique feelings and soul. And we can say that we have succeeded! It comes in 4 different colorways: Pearl Gem, Electric Blue (BB edition), Scarlet Web in Bibirevo and Bubble Gum. [Aurus colorways — копия] Specs: Diameter – 57mm Width – 47mm Gap wid… ---
**Author:** ![yo-yo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo-yo/32/310712_2.png) [@yo-yo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yo-yo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/empathy-noir-vs-klondike/411350/10 "2024-10-07T20:56:38Z")
The dressel designs connection fits that description well and is very fun to play with