# Echo vs. Raptor

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [June 8, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610 "2012-06-08T20:26:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![mozartm99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mozartm99](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mozartm99)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/1 "2012-06-08T20:26:50Z")

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So I wasn’t exactly sure where to put this but here goes nothing. So I got an echo last christmas and it was my first metal. Now I want another and I was looking at the raptor and was wondering how it compares to the echo.

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**Author:** ![Taluboots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Taluboots](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Taluboots)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/2 "2012-06-08T22:35:40Z")

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The Raptor is lighter abd smaller than the Echo, so it plays a bit faster. All in all, they both play great (smooth, stable, etc.)

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**Author:** ![Slade\_Riggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Slade\_Riggs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slade_Riggs)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/3 "2012-06-08T22:56:19Z")

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I liked my raptors better actually. The raptor grinds better and they both spin a lot longer than you would expect. Even with the caps out the echo seems a bit solid and I like light and floaty. I would go for the raptor if I had the choice. Raptor regens better as well witch make a big diffrence to me.

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**Author:** ![mozartm99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@mozartm99](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mozartm99)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/4 "2012-06-11T03:58:16Z")

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So how much smaler is the raptor than the echo.

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**Author:** ![Taluboots](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Taluboots](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Taluboots)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2012, 5:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/5 "2012-06-11T05:51:46Z")

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> [@mozartm99](#):
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> So how much smaler is the raptor than the echo.

The Raptor is smaller than the Echo in both width and diameter, but not by that much.

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**Author:** ![turtleyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@turtleyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/turtleyo)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/6 "2012-06-14T01:06:54Z")

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i like my raptor, it’s light and smooth, even with the stock bearing. As long as you clean the bearing of coarse. the bearing comes well lubricated :-. just simply clean it and put a TINY drop of thin lube on it. The lube will help the bearing last for virtually ever. I’ve had my raptor bearing for a little less than a year now.

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**Author:** ![fellavader](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fellavader/32/905_2.png) [@fellavader](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/fellavader)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-vs-raptor/38610/7 "2012-06-14T02:00:41Z")

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Personally I like the echo better than the raptor. Light and fast. Play really well.