# Echo 2 & gerbil trick **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Tricks\ **Created:** [March 24, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657 "2022-03-24T11:00:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/1 "2022-03-24T11:00:31Z")
I never thought I’d be trying one of those yo-yo tricks where it tangles around your hands. I said to myself before I learned boingy boing last year on this site I would not and stick to easy stuff. But skin the gerbil is nice! I memorized the whole thing. But it stops?? It stops a whole lot after that first backwards brain twister. I tried everything, techniques and different hand movements… nothing. Sometimes it would work then I would go for the trick. Need a wider yo-yo or what?? ---
**Author:** ![Roman\_Soup](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/roman_soup/32/173217_2.png) [@Roman\_Soup](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Roman_Soup)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/2 "2022-03-24T15:16:34Z")
Usually that happens if your strings are not in alignment. What is your current setup for throwing? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/3 "2022-03-24T15:24:10Z")
I’m glad to see you back here and tackling a new trick! Just like boingy boing, you’ll end up getting it! ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/4 "2022-03-24T17:53:43Z")
Echo 2 / slackies thin poly string. I didn’t think I would try another trick after I learned boingy boing. I still train it hard. I’m around 30 boings on the butterfly xt. That took a year though. Still not using the bearing that came with it. The smallest yo-yo I done it on is a sonic spin. Can’t do it on a imperial… too hard. ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/5 "2022-03-24T17:56:28Z")
It snags a whole a lot even if I have it straight/aligned strings. Also, don’t know if I ruined the yo-yo… but I left tooth paste all over my echo 2 for months after learning boingy boing to where I want it to be. It made the yo-yo really shiny and still is… I cleaned it off but I did this because I didn’t think I would try a new tick someday again ☹ ---
**Author:** ![YoYoStuff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyostuff/32/161872_2.png) [@YoYoStuff](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoStuff)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 6:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/6 "2022-03-25T06:42:12Z")
try pulling you throwhand before the yoyo lands at every part of skin the gerbil, this wiil settle the snagging problem. After that is just practice ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/7 "2022-03-25T08:23:26Z")
Only snags on the Oliver Twist. But yeah… practice, practice, more practice. That should be pretty easy to understand and accept. Has anyone done it on the echo 2 here? I have a Silenus that I broke trying to take a bearing out. The seat dented too much to fix. I didn’t even have it for a month. Wonder if it could’ve been better then the echo 2. ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/8 "2022-03-25T08:28:44Z")
I also recently for laughs tried to do Mach 5 and eli hops… never got it. I think practice doesn’t always work. I been trying to do flying saucer on my butterfly xt and still can’t do it. It has now been a year. You can’t always learn them… or I could be wrong. Just got to keep practicing LOL! ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/9 "2022-03-25T09:43:10Z")
I just finished doing the last part, it was hard. Where you unwind on the NTH and land on the peze then backwards bind. This trick wasn’t too hard like boing boing. Boingy boing I had to actually have music on very loud and not throw my yo-yo around. Pillows under my feet from standing too long. It was hell! If I can fix that snag, I have it. Thanks people. Im doing the one Adam did on yotricks YouTube, since I learned boing boing from him too. There is tomany people doing the trick different. Adam had the easiest to me but still looks good. ---
**Author:** ![stevejspins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@stevejspins](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stevejspins)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/10 "2022-03-25T11:52:12Z")
Glad you are having fun. Are you sleeping on the same pillows you stand on to rest your feet? ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/11 "2022-03-25T12:06:02Z")
I actually used the sofa ones. I remember every single day of learning boingy boing. I even had the loop where it connects to the bearing around my computer tower overnight so the butterfly xt can sleep longer. There where so many adjustments I had to do. All I had to do really was the same tip I found on adams video from day 1. Practice it on the keychain mount, but move the yo-yo back first on it because it’s like that on the mount. Swing the yo-yo forward on the keychain mount. Now… the secret: Hold up with the arms and go/up down with the arms while keeping the top elbow/bottom hand as still as you possibly can. I’m now on 30 boings on the butterfly xt because of these things I found through lots of trial and error. Not the stock bearing but it’s still hard to do with that small yo-yo. ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/12 "2022-03-25T12:19:44Z")
I still think it’s the best yo-yo trick ever… havnt seen anything better. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/13 "2022-03-26T11:04:57Z")
Can this gerbil trick be done on the butterfly xt?? I want to stick to just one yo-yo. I don’t know much about this trick… was it only made for unresponsive expensive yo-yos?? ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/14 "2022-03-26T12:42:07Z")
> [@Boingy-Boing-Help](#): > > Can this gerbil trick be done on the butterfly xt? Yeah, certainly. XT will let you do quite a bit so long as you work with it. ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/15 "2022-03-27T11:06:24Z")
I fixed the problem, the part where you flip it after the trapeze… that summersault thing. I was making it land on the string from the back. It always binded but i thought it was just me. When I looked at history of skin the gerbil, he follows through all around, not landing with string behind lol… This made it so much easier. I did my first legit gerbil today. Out of 500+ attempts. Yo-yo just keeps losing spin. What’s the LIGHTEST unresponsive out there?? Is there a 50g?? Echo 2 bruised my arm. ---
**Author:** ![MarkD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/markd/32/40845_2.png) [@MarkD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MarkD)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/16 "2022-03-27T12:34:43Z")
> [@Boingy-Boing-Help](#): > > Yo-yo just keeps losing spin. What’s the LIGHTEST unresponsive out there?? Is there a 50g?? There’s a couple around that weight. RCS Author - 56g and available here: > **[The Author](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/the-author-yoyo-by-rain-city?variant=31855734620234)** > > From Rain City Skills: The Author is a yoyo I’ve been waiting years to make. When I was working with King Yo Star, I had the opportunity to release a signature yoyo. The Pun was a great yoyo, but it wasn’t perfect. Five years later I have a lot more... Smashing Crucible - 50g - Probably not available anywhere though Aceyo Air - 52g - Might be around online somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/17 "2022-03-29T11:38:33Z")
50g… that’s lighter then my butterfly xt. I thought that was the lightest one ever. I’m very used to the unresponsive ones only being heavy, I used a echo 2 for months. Now Silenus since it works now. Those light unresponsive ones must not sleep as long as the heavier ones?? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/18 "2022-03-29T12:34:46Z")
You won’t sacrifice much spin time (if any) at all. I used to have the RCS Author and still have an Ace Yo Air 2 which is 53 grams and the spin time was just as long as much heavier yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![Boingy-Boing-Help](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@Boingy-Boing-Help](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Boingy-Boing-Help)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/19 "2022-03-29T20:16:36Z")
Can you make a bearing last forever? I mean still spin half the amount it normally would or close. Same thing with a yoyo, I don’t want to get another one after I get that air 2 someday. My butterfly xt bearing seat is really worn out, it has sharp edges and it’s loud. Doesn’t sleep that long any more. Maybe because I didn’t use the bearing that came with it?? Chris, what’s the oldest yo-yo you have but it’s still working enough to do stuff on it? ---
**Author:** ![ChrisFrancz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/chrisfrancz/32/48992_2.png) [@ChrisFrancz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ChrisFrancz)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657/20 "2022-03-29T21:09:52Z")
Bearings require cleaning and relubing from time to time. I doubt any bearing will last forever but if it’s taken care, who knows? I have a few yoyos that the Pilgrims brought over on the Mayflower and the bearings are still good. I did not start buying yoyos until 2015 and I never had any bearing problems. A yoyo I gave to a friend had a bearing turn very dark gray and was seized up and unuseable. I have no idea what he did to it. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/echo-2-gerbil-trick/354657.md?page=2)