# Duncan Torque thoughts? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [May 21, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403 "2014-05-21T20:31:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/1 "2014-05-21T20:31:15Z")
What do you guys think of or are expecting of the new Duncan Torque? Personally, I think it’s EASILY the best looking yoyo duncan’s ever made and one of the best looking releases of 2014 IMO. The specs and look seems like it’s going to play like a beast too. I just wish they placed the engraving outside of the cup like with the Strix for better fingerspins, but besides that everything else seems perfect, and only $45! One of the few times I can say that I’m dying to try a Duncan 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mullicabob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mullicabob/32/1108_2.png) [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/2 "2014-05-21T22:35:17Z")
For the price its hard to beat. We picked one up at the Duncan kiosk in Downtown Disney and we stunned by its performance. ---
**Author:** ![BensonChen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@BensonChen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/BensonChen)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/3 "2014-05-22T02:06:01Z")
> [@mullicabob](#): > > For the price its hard to beat. We picked one up at the Duncan kiosk in Downtown Disney and we stunned by its performance. When was that? I was there on Monday :wink: ---
**Author:** ![mullicabob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mullicabob/32/1108_2.png) [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/4 "2014-05-22T02:10:57Z")
> [@BensonChen](#): > > When was that? I was there on Monday :wink: I believe it was Friday. Picked up a gunmetal one. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/5 "2014-05-22T02:24:00Z")
Duncan’s engravings suck. ---
**Author:** ![yuki\_onitsura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yuki_onitsura/32/1162_2.png) [@yuki\_onitsura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yuki_onitsura)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/6 "2014-05-22T02:51:28Z")
The specs, shape and price look great. Not a huge fan of the engravings. Yuki ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/7 "2014-05-22T03:03:12Z")
Got my red one today. It’s pretty amazing and as mb said you cannot beat it for the price. It plays like a dream and is smooth as anything I’ve tried. I love it so far. ---
**Author:** ![mullicabob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mullicabob/32/1108_2.png) [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/8 "2014-05-22T03:11:32Z")
Very smooth…very ---
**Author:** ![hobbyman101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/9 "2014-05-22T03:27:59Z")
I bought my Torque last Sunday at Downtown Disney. I have been At Disney world all week so I have not have much chance to use it. When I first looked at it Seth (he who is pictured on the package) assisted me, I was surprised at how wide it was and how light it felt and how well it played. It will easily become one of my favorite throws. Mine is gold and all I can say is: Duncan you have a winner! ---
**Author:** ![mullicabob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mullicabob/32/1108_2.png) [@mullicabob](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mullicabob)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/10 "2014-05-22T05:13:58Z")
I’m waiting for the rings that can added to be released. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/11 "2014-05-22T05:14:27Z")
How heavy is it ? I saw it as 67 here and 65 somewhere else Also, can it play fast? ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/12 "2014-05-22T06:24:34Z")
> [@Raigo](#): > > How heavy is it ? I saw it as 67 here and 65 somewhere else > Also, can it play fast? It’s 67.1 grams. I literally just looked at the box. Yes it can definitely play fast. Sean Perez was doing that exact thing when I walked up. Bryan Jarden was the guy pictured on my box. ---
**Author:** ![doug77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@doug77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/doug77)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/13 "2014-05-22T12:50:05Z")
Is is blasted for grinds? If not, how good is it for grinds? ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/14 "2014-05-22T17:35:27Z")
It’s probably a good yoyo especially for the price but Duncan straight up ripped off yoyomonster’s designs. I posted this in another thread but it’s worth posting again. [https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/3598XP-Pnk-S.jpghttps://lh3.ggpht.com/\_G\_1IOX62g2E/TTmbJOBpJ7I/AAAAAAAAGnA/J2Gnawdw82E/s1600/cm6.jpg](https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/3598XP-Pnk-S.jpghttps://lh3.ggpht.com/_G_1IOX62g2E/TTmbJOBpJ7I/AAAAAAAAGnA/J2Gnawdw82E/s1600/cm6.jpg) Which is Duncan, which is YYM? One’s the Torque, the other the Checkmate. The diameter:width ratios on these are identical, the profiles are identical, Duncan just made some adjustments to the overall size and the rim looks different. The Torque looks like a Checkmate knockoff. ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 5:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/15 "2014-05-22T17:46:37Z")
> [@Shai\_Hulud](#): > > It’s probably a good yoyo especially for the price but Duncan straight up ripped off yoyomonster’s designs. I posted this in another thread but it’s worth posting again. > > [https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/3598XP-Pnk-S.jpghttps://lh3.ggpht.com/\_G\_1IOX62g2E/TTmbJOBpJ7I/AAAAAAAAGnA/J2Gnawdw82E/s1600/cm6.jpg](https://www.yo-yo.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/3598XP-Pnk-S.jpghttps://lh3.ggpht.com/_G_1IOX62g2E/TTmbJOBpJ7I/AAAAAAAAGnA/J2Gnawdw82E/s1600/cm6.jpg) > > Which is Duncan, which is YYM? One’s the Torque, the other the Checkmate. The diameter:width ratios on these are identical, the profiles are identical, Duncan just made some adjustments to the overall size and the rim looks different. > > The Torque looks like a Checkmate knockoff. the shapes are very similar but the specs are different, the cups are different which means that the weight distribution is completely different. Considering the amount of yoyos being made it’s hard to do something completely new. ---
**Author:** ![hobbyman101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@hobbyman101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbyman101)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/16 "2014-05-22T21:47:48Z")
> [@hobbyman101](#): > > I bought my Torque last Sunday at Downtown Disney. I have been At Disney world all week so I have not have much chance to use it. When I first looked at it Seth (he who is pictured on the package) assisted me, I was surprised at how wide it was and how light it felt and how well it played. It will easily become one of my favorite throws. Mine is gold and all I can say is: Duncan you have a winner! edit: I goofed. Bryan is on the package and both he and Sean were throwing that day. ---
**Author:** ![andy569](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/andy569/32/1256_2.png) [@andy569](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/andy569)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/17 "2014-05-22T22:01:13Z")
For you guys that already have one, how is it for grinding and fingerspins? Is it polished? ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/18 "2014-05-22T23:27:52Z")
> [@andy569](#): > > For you guys that already have one, how is it for grinding and fingerspins? Is it polished? it’s completely polished. I’ve found it to be very bad at grinds. I can barely do normal finger grinds due to the fact that it kinda grabs your finger. I suck at fingerspins so I’ll let someone else comment on that. I don’t do grinds that often anyway so I’m fine with it. ---
**Author:** ![Raigo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/raigo/32/1446_2.png) [@Raigo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Raigo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 12:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/19 "2014-05-23T00:35:25Z")
Is it good at horizontal? ---
**Author:** ![Shai\_Hulud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shai_hulud/32/1521_2.png) [@Shai\_Hulud](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Shai_Hulud)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403/20 "2014-05-23T00:50:57Z")
The shape is practically identical. Yoyomonster has been producing its signature “mixed straight” shape for years. Its found in virtually all their metal yoyos, not just the Checkmate. Then Duncan steals the shape, makes a few adjustments, and is going to sell about 100 times as many yoyos as YYM can. I agree there are shapes that pop up again and again, because they’re so generic, but some companies have developed designs they’re especially known for. YYM being a prime example. Other than Ducan with the Torque I’ve never seen another company make a “mixed straight” profile yoyo. Anyone familiar with YYM’s lineup can see the Torque uses YYM design features, even if it’s not identical to one of their yoyos. It’s just very disappointing coming from the world’s biggest manufacturer when they copy designs from tiny Japanese shops, then try to pass off the design as innovative. From the YYE ad: " And they’re [Duncan] still on top of their game creating amazing yo-yos for all players from beginner to pro! The newest addition to the Duncan De-Luxxe lineup is the Torque and it definitely lives up to the legendary Duncan name!" What a load of crap. By the way these were first released at Japan Nationals in a limited raw version that looks much less goofy. You can still find them on Japanese sites though they cost about $20 more. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-torque-thoughts/66403.md?page=2)