# Duncan Mayhem vs YYF BOSS **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [January 17, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408 "2010-01-17T22:20:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/1 "2010-01-17T22:20:31Z")
Im pretty new to yoyoing and started with a Duncan Metal Zero 2. I was starting to like it when the axle stripped. Ive decided to get a nicer yoyo and am choosing between the Duncan Mayhem and YFF boss. Wondering which one you guys liked more. ---
**Author:** ![buck\_choy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buck_choy/32/302_2.png) [@buck\_choy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buck_choy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/2 "2010-01-17T22:31:13Z")
I’ve tried the mayhem. it is pretty good except that it’s not that smooth unless you take off the side things and it has terrible binds other then that it is pretty good. as for the boss i have not tried it so I can’t tell you how it plays. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/3 "2010-01-17T22:52:44Z")
Thanks for the post. By the way is removing the side things easy? ---
**Author:** ![buck\_choy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buck_choy/32/302_2.png) [@buck\_choy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buck_choy)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/4 "2010-01-17T23:13:06Z")
I think so I don’t actually have one my friend does so I haven’t actually taken them off but I think it is easy to. I think you need a spoon to do it. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/5 "2010-01-18T00:20:56Z")
alright. any one else like the mayhem? ---
**Author:** ![stephen\_cam](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/stephen_cam/32/380_2.png) [@stephen\_cam](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stephen_cam)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/6 "2010-01-18T00:22:11Z")
I really like my Boss, it is very smooth and just an overall great player. ---
**Author:** ![theyoster109](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoster109/32/244_2.png) [@theyoster109](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoster109)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/7 "2010-01-18T00:36:47Z")
The Mayhem is excellant yoyo. BTW The Mayhem doesn’t have the hubstacks The Momentum does [http://www.yoyonation.com/skin1/images/thumbnails/t\_16890.jpg](http://www.yoyonation.com/skin1/images/thumbnails/t_16890.jpg) [http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0\_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/duncan/duncan-se-momentam1.jpg](http://thumbnail.image.rakuten.co.jp/@0_mall/yo-yo/cabinet/duncan/duncan-se-momentam1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/8 "2010-01-18T00:44:49Z")
im still working on learning all the basic tricks, not binds. a friend told me that the duncan mayhem was unresponsive (therefore good for binds) if im trying to learn tricks besides binds, is the mayhem not the right yoyo? is the boss more suited for this? thanks. ---
**Author:** ![theyoster109](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoster109/32/244_2.png) [@theyoster109](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoster109)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/9 "2010-01-18T00:52:18Z")
The boss is Way more unresponseive than the Mayhem get the Mayhem and some thick lube. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/10 "2010-01-18T01:01:21Z")
so ill be able to do tricks that are not binds with the mayhem better than the metal zero(my old yoyo)? i think im gonna get the mayhem, any name of lubes, and i should use the silicone stickers right? ---
**Author:** ![theyoster109](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/theyoster109/32/244_2.png) [@theyoster109](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theyoster109)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/11 "2010-01-18T01:06:18Z")
Yes, You can get Thick Lube Here [YoYoJam Lube – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/58/YYJ-Lube) Make sure its thick and leave the Silicone pads on. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/12 "2010-01-18T01:24:01Z")
thanks for the link, i think im gonna get the mayhem. ---
**Author:** ![broyo13](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/broyo13/32/432_2.png) [@broyo13](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/broyo13)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/13 "2010-01-18T01:26:23Z")
anyone else have opinions on the mayhems responsiveness? ---
**Author:** ![MetalMilitia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/metalmilitia/32/183_2.png) [@MetalMilitia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MetalMilitia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/14 "2010-01-22T19:06:33Z")
I own both yoyos and they are both unresponsive out of the box. You can make either of them responsive by adding YYJ Thick Lube to the bearing. I personally enjoy the Boss more, but they are both great yoyos. It’s all preference. If you like heavier yoyos, I would go with the Boss. If you like faster yoyos, I would go with the Mayhem due to the small bearing. If you want an adjustable response yoyo, you can always get a YYF Adjust-O-Matic. This yoyo allows you to play unresponsive or responsive just by moving the dials, just like a Velocity. ---
**Author:** ![jrmdhdc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jrmdhdc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrmdhdc)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-mayhem-vs-yyf-boss/10408/15 "2010-01-22T19:22:55Z")
my freind has the mayhem it sucks really the boss is like an 888 without hubstacks cuz i have both an 888(wich i am selling just go and lok at sell and trade section) and they are the same