# Duncan freehand mods **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 6, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488 "2022-04-06T20:10:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/1 "2022-04-06T20:10:26Z")
so i recently got myself a duncan freehand. One of the old school style responsive ones that came in the NKF loud pack. its okay but the response is trash. its the star burst grooves. Are there response stickers i can buy for this yoyo? also, i have the AL modern version im wondering if i could just put the plastic caps on the AL fh one? I know that you have to use a pump to get the caps off the AL FH1 but has anyone but plastic caps on theirs? ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/2 "2022-04-06T20:28:36Z")
Calling the response trash is a bit harsh, I think they play great. Starbursts aren’t inherently bad. I really like the Butterfly XT, it’s just a responsive yoyo. Try playing 0A with it or throw in a concave bearing for a great responsive 1A yoyo. You could pad recess a Butterfly XT if you wanted to, but you’d still need to add shims if you want it fully unresponsive. XT caps will fit in the Freehand One AL if you just want to swap caps. Just for clarification what you have is a Butterfly XT, not a plastic Freehand One. ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/3 "2022-04-07T01:56:13Z")
Starbursts are also essential for 2A. Imagine how often you’ll have to change the pads on your loopers if they didn’t have starbursts. The cost of the pads will probably be more than the yoyo itself. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/4 "2022-04-07T02:14:27Z")
> [@SlowYo](#): > > so i recently got myself a duncan freehand. > One of the old school style responsive ones that came in the NKF loud pack. > its okay but the response is trash. its the star burst grooves. That would either be a FH proto type or a Trans-Axtion which was the basis for the FH. Production versions of the FH came with friction stickers. > **[Duncan Freehand 1](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Duncan_Freehand_1)** > > This article refers to the original Freehand yo-yo of 2001, and is numbered 1 to mark it as the first Freehand yo-yo. For the December 2021 release, see Duncan Freehand One The Duncan Freehand 1 (often abbreviated FH1), sometimes referred to as the... > **[Duncan Trans-Axtion](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Duncan_Trans-Axtion)** > > The Trans-Axtion by Duncan is a yo-yo released in Q1 1999, and would eventually be re-released later that year as part of the Hardcore series, alongside the Avenger, Ballistic and Orb. The Trans-Axtion is a wing-shaped string trick yo-yo with a... ---
**Author:** ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/5 "2022-04-07T04:22:08Z")
They mentioned specifically where they got it from, and it was a special edition Butterfly XT that released last month. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/6 "2022-04-07T04:37:53Z")
> [@mable](#): > > it was a special edition Butterfly XT That wasn’t stated in the original post. That’s clearly not a Freehand so he should have been more explicit. ---
**Author:** ![Hanker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hanker/32/628221_2.png) [@Hanker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Hanker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/7 "2022-04-07T05:37:06Z")
I think the original poster doesn’t even know what yoyo he got hahaha. That’s why @mable figured it must have been a Butterfly XT from his description instead of a freehand. ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/8 "2022-04-07T14:02:20Z")
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that makes sense ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/9 "2022-04-07T14:07:01Z")
i didnt know what yoyo it was bc it came in a mystery box with no duncan packaging or labeling it was a special edition NFK. thanks to mable i now know its not a og duncan freehand its a butterfly xt. … still though… its look exactly a free hand to me and when you hold it next to a AL FH1 they’re quite similar. so sorry my mistake and thanks for pointing it out in polite and non passive aggressive way. ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/10 "2022-04-07T14:09:07Z")
im not really trying to make it unresponsive id just like to be able to play with it. ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/11 "2022-04-07T14:29:37Z")
> [@SlowYo](#): > > caps off the AL FH1 but has anyone but plastic caps on theirs? I have a NFK XT and the the Caps do fit on the FHAL1 nice and tight, 63 grams ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/8/4/084330125c3f2a07dd9e383c7cb38251ea2e857c.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/c/1/3c108f1771c7f5b0c26449c2bb57974aa12c61bd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/12 "2022-04-07T15:57:29Z")
i saw this on instagram and i messaged you about it a while ago lol. this is what gave me the idea to do it! did you use the bike pump to get the caps off the FH1 ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/13 "2022-04-07T15:58:37Z")
Bike pump is the only way to go. ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/14 "2022-04-07T17:04:58Z")
so would the AL FH1 caps fit the butterfly? ---
**Author:** ![Exmime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/exmime/32/40143_2.png) [@Exmime](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Exmime)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/15 "2022-04-07T17:06:45Z")
Yeah they do, you have to screw it together first as the AL caps don’t keep the nut in place, a simple hack is to put some tape over the nuts. ---
**Author:** ![SlowYo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowyo/32/162943_2.png) [@SlowYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowYo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-freehand-mods/355488/16 "2022-04-07T17:09:30Z")
Thanks for the tip!