# duncan echo, yyj therory,yyf severe or duncan metropolis **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743 "2013-02-19T21:00:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/1 "2013-02-19T21:00:13Z")
which of these yoyos good for the price and the performance. ---
**Author:** ![phil\_the\_lizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@phil\_the\_lizard](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/phil_the_lizard)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/2 "2013-02-19T21:08:58Z")
Ok, so the severe is in my opinion one of the best plastics ever made, but has a really tight bearing seat. I have heard awesome things about the theory, good things about the echo, and meh things about the metropolis. The severe is the only one I can truly comment on. It is fast, stable, floaty, and light. ---
**Author:** ![aironish](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aironish/32/92327_2.png) [@aironish](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aironish)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/3 "2013-02-19T23:18:19Z")
They are all pretty good yoyos, but it mostly depends on what your preferences are. If you don’t know, then pick up a few used throws off the bst for cheap and figure out what you like. ---
**Author:** ![Austin\_Deanhardt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/austin_deanhardt/32/1028_2.png) [@Austin\_Deanhardt](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Austin_Deanhardt)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/4 "2013-02-20T04:07:24Z")
The Metropolis sometimes has a sharp bearing seat, so it cuts strings. And the Delrin Severe has a tight bearing seat. The Duncan Echo is nice. I haven’t used the Yoyojam Theory yet, but it looks like a great yoyo, but you won’t be able to do inner ring thumb grinds with it. So I would pick the Echo or Theory. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/5 "2013-02-23T13:04:37Z")
YYJ THEORY OF COURSE! > [@Yyj theory](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/yyj-theory/49605/5): > > The price does not give this yoyo justice. It is SUPER cheap for the performance it plays at. Dead smooth, super fast, great at horizontal, binds tightly w/o snagging, can finger spin like a boss(I can hold it on my finger for a good minute w/o a glove, with a glove I can hold it there for two and a half minutes, on a good throw) it is super capable of grinds, awesome color scheme, beat engravings, and to top it off, the most B.A. Name ever, suits the yoyo too. Get one NOW! When I saw the promo video, I thought “Aww, another expensive high end YYJ metal” but when I saw the price, I wanted to smack YYJ in the face with a pan, the yoyo is worth $125! I was outraged that I paid so little for one of the best YYJ on the market. This thing is AMAZING! I will buy as many Theory’s as I can get my hands on, I feel bad for someone who does not own a YYJ Theory. This yo-yo is super cheap for the awesomeness it brings. It’s like paying $99 for that one $250 Oxy yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/6 "2013-02-23T19:14:06Z")
Theory; the severe pulses(wobbley vibe) and the theory is dead smooth and unresponsive. I own both the severe 2012 and the theory. But the severe does play faster but has some nasty vibe. Theory is my pick. It has a ridge that you can try thumb grinds on. ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/7 "2013-02-23T21:34:08Z")
> [@Mctron](#): > > Theory the severe pulses(wobbley vibe) and the theory is dead smooth and unresponsive. I own both the severe 2012 and the theory. But the severe does play faster but has some nasty vibe. Theory is my pick. It has a ridge that you can try thumb grinds on. can you fix the vibe or tune the severe to play smooth? ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/8 "2013-02-23T21:36:07Z")
I spent a week tring to fix the vibe, but no luck, it does play great you just have to ignore the vibe. Worst vibe I have ever had on a yoyo. But if you play through it is a floaty good throw, the theory is a heavy fun great throw ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/9 "2013-02-23T21:47:00Z")
> [@Mctron](#): > > I spent a week tring to fix the vibe, but no luck, it does play great you just have to ignore the vibe. Worst vibe I have ever had on a yoyo. But if you play through it is a floaty good throw, the theory is a heavy fun great throw maybe you just got a defective throw. also which color you bought? ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/10 "2013-02-23T22:20:10Z")
black, I remember in january/late december nothing but complaints about vibe and wobble.  The theory is pretty smooth and if it isn’t yoyojam will probably replace it for you. Threads about problems: > **[YYF Severe, I need major help please guys :)](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,53904.0.html)** > > Okay, so I’m gonna do my best to describe the situation I’m going through. It’s hard to describe but I will do my best. Okay so here goes… This past Saturday I received my yyf Severe from YYE shop, from the get go of pulling the Yoyo out of the yyf... > **[Sever trouble](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,54137.0.html)** > > So I’m having problems unscrewing my derlin sever. Any tips? > **[My yyf severe problem solved :) read how](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,54363.0.html)** > > So I told YYE about the severe and they gladly refunded me and I bought a few packs of kitty string and some snow tires, irpads, and gen yo pads. I also used my own money and found a brand new aero yo delta for 25$! Let me tell you I thought all... ---
**Author:** ![augmentedloyalty](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/augmentedloyalty/32/1218_2.png) [@augmentedloyalty](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/augmentedloyalty)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/11 "2013-02-24T22:59:08Z")
> [@Mctron](#): > > black, I remember in january/late december nothing but complaints about vibe and wobble.  The theory is pretty smooth and if it isn’t yoyojam will probably replace it for you. > > Threads about problems: > > [YYF Severe, I need major help please guys :) - Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,53904.0.html) > > [Sever trouble - Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,54137.0.html) > > [My yyf severe problem solved :) read how - General Yo-Yo - YoYoExpert](http://yoyoexpert.com/forums/index.php/topic,54363.0.html) if i can tune a yyj pinncle  I am sure I could tune a yyf severe ---
**Author:** ![hakysak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/bbce88/32.png) [@hakysak](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hakysak)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/duncan-echo-yyj-therory-yyf-severe-or-duncan-metropolis/49743/12 "2013-02-25T01:23:44Z")
The Severe. The Delrin is smoooth. Grinds better than the Echo, and is a couple bucks cheaper. Plays really good. Mine has no vibe. kinda feels light and heavy at the same time. It really impresses me.