# Dubstep **URL:** \ **Category:** Unrelated Discussion\ **Created:** [December 4, 2012, 3:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110 "2012-12-04T03:21:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![HaOn1313](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/977dab/32.png) [@HaOn1313](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/HaOn1313)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/21 "2012-12-05T04:24:42Z")
> [@Proboscis](#): > > Liquid Stranger has some hard stuff. Excision. Downlink. Some of it is too fast to throw to, but who said I need to throw to the beat? :wink: Lol! They are pretty awsome. ---
**Author:** ![TheOneInOrange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheOneInOrange](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheOneInOrange)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/22 "2012-12-05T05:17:54Z")
When I throw i usually listen to either Rusko, Datsik, excision, knife party, skrillex, or zomboy. All dubs good old or new doesn’t matter 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_creep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_creep/32/908_2.png) [@yoyo\_creep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_creep)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/23 "2012-12-05T13:23:31Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > Buddy, you listed Skrillex earlier. That’s about as far away from the right idea as you can get. and? I also listen to rock and metal. He puts a rock twist on electronica music. I like that. ---
**Author:** ![yoyokid8](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyokid8/32/1094_2.png) [@yoyokid8](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyokid8)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/24 "2012-12-05T17:39:16Z")
I like Knife Party. That’s dubstep. Not dubstep: DEADMAU5!!! Feed Me Skrillex Dillon Francis Zedd Wolfgang Gartner These artists ^^^ are dance, not dubstep. ---
**Author:** ![TheOneInOrange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheOneInOrange](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheOneInOrange)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/25 "2012-12-05T19:36:30Z")
> [@yoyokid8](#): > > I like Knife Party. That’s dubstep. > Not dubstep: > DEADMAU5!!! > Feed Me > Skrillex > Dillon Francis > Zedd > Wolfgang Gartner > > These artists ^^^ are dance, not dubstep. Unfortunately skrillex and knife party are both modern dubstep or “brostep” as it’s termed. I consider Dance just an overall genre like how you could call dubstep techno. Dubstep is a pretty large genre overall. ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/26 "2012-12-05T21:29:20Z")
Dubstep is not a large genre, its not like ‘rock’ or ‘punk’ which encompasses many sub-genres under a general name. Dubstep involves a lot of elements taken from other forms of electronic music, but if it is not sitting around 140 BPM, doesn’t revolve around complex evolving two step or four on the floor drum patterns and isn’t dominated by an omnipresent bass/sub bass line it is not dubstep. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/27 "2012-12-05T21:37:00Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > Dubstep is not a large genre, its not like ‘rock’ or ‘punk’ which encompasses many sub-genres under a general name. Dubstep involves a lot of elements taken from other forms of electronic music, but if it is not sitting around 140 BPM, doesn’t revolve around complex evolving two step or four on the floor drum patterns and isn’t dominated by an omnipresent bass/sub bass line it is not dubstep. 140 BPM with the dominant beats sounding like they’re in half-time or 70BPM is how I heard it described. But what the hell do I know? I may have heard it from a young person but I’m old. Rather be listening to Kimbra… :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/28 "2012-12-05T21:49:24Z")
Yup yup, lots of cut time stuff going on. But that wouldn’t cut the BPM in half(it would in fact sound doubled, not halved) , just makes a notes value half of what it is in a standard time. Bringing up the pace and feel of the track. A lot of these older London producers are seriously talented musicians and producers with a heavy music theory background. A Digital Mystikz remix of a Skream track, think this one is a Mala mix. And a classic, the original and this. Apologies if this isn’t a good quality rip; on my phone and can’t listen to it at the mo’. Good luck if you has no subwoofer. [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ex2xVJC4XU4](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ex2xVJC4XU4) ---
**Author:** ![TheOneInOrange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@TheOneInOrange](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheOneInOrange)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/29 "2012-12-05T21:51:00Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > Dubstep is not a large genre, its not like ‘rock’ or ‘punk’ which encompasses many sub-genres under a general name. Dubstep involves a lot of elements taken from other forms of electronic music, but if it is not sitting around 140 BPM, doesn’t revolve around complex evolving two step or four on the floor drum patterns and isn’t dominated by an omnipresent bass/sub bass line it is not dubstep. Sorry I ment large as in plenty of artists, because many people only know a few. I completely agree on the 140 bpm. How do you feel about skrillex, knife party and zomboy? Their bpm is also around 140. ---
**Author:** ![Noonar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/noonar/32/1244_2.png) [@Noonar](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Noonar)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/30 "2012-12-05T22:38:29Z")
I like to throw to Mitis’s Music ---
**Author:** ![supbreh1234](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/supbreh1234/32/1131_2.png) [@supbreh1234](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/supbreh1234)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/31 "2012-12-05T23:13:02Z")
Any EDM except 50% of David guetta songs. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofoot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofoot/32/602_2.png) [@yoyofoot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofoot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/32 "2012-12-06T00:24:17Z")
> [@yoyokid8](#): > > I like Knife Party. That’s dubstep. > Not dubstep: > DEADMAU5!!! > Feed Me > Skrillex > Dillon Francis > Zedd > Wolfgang Gartner > > These artists ^^^ are dance, not dubstep. Feed Me does make dubstep. Maybe you haven’t heard all of his songs? [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/8/f/b8f809d13273c74a69ae6d08936b3cce26e66a76.jpeg "Feed Me - Whiskers feat. Gemini (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzo2JwF0N2c) [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/d/8/9d8373eecbef79a8ec8bd0c3aedec16ca5b35188.jpeg "Feed Me - Cloudburn feat. Tasha Baxter (Official Audio)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ymuFzsnwU) [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i73UaL5RS7Y) ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/33 "2012-12-06T02:20:38Z")
No, sir, that’s nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Trace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/trace/32/620097_2.png) [@Trace](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Trace)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/34 "2012-12-06T03:47:12Z")
It’s not real Dubstep… IT’S NOT REAL DUBSTEP… IT’S NOT REAL DUBSTEP… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/9/8/e980b376a72f07d9c6111c4e504472f47b8635ab.gif) ---
**Author:** ![yoyojohn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojohn/32/7911_2.png) [@yoyojohn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojohn)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/35 "2012-12-06T03:51:14Z")
> [@yoyofoot](#): > > > [@yoyokid8](#): > > > > I like Knife Party. That’s dubstep. > > Not dubstep: > > DEADMAU5!!! > > Feed Me > > Skrillex > > Dillon Francis > > Zedd > > Wolfgang Gartner > > > > These artists ^^^ are dance, not dubstep. > > Feed Me does make dubstep. Maybe you haven’t heard all of his songs? > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzo2JwF0N2c](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzo2JwF0N2c) > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ymuFzsnwU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ymuFzsnwU) > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i73UaL5RS7Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i73UaL5RS7Y) That’s not dubstep! It’s clearly… hard-trance-dub-indie-tech-core! Jeesh! You all need to learn a thing or two about your music! ---
**Author:** ![Newbies\_United](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/newbies_united/32/440_2.png) [@Newbies\_United](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Newbies_United)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/36 "2012-12-06T04:14:21Z")
> [@yoyo creep](#): > > halo nova Halo Nova, or Nick Pittsinger, is now under the alias “Varien.” Just wanted to tell you in case you didn’t know. 🙂 I’m not going to distinguish which is dubstep, glitch hop, electro house, etc, but this is what I listen to: Ephixa Varien Direct Droptek Insan3Lik3 Muzzy Noisestorm Skrillex Knife Party Obsidia OVERWERK Pegboard Nerds Rezonate Rogue Stephen Walking Tristam Stereotronique That’s all I can think of. I love Monstercat, as you can tell. Might as well link a random song, while I’m at it. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/6/2/76216ddd7adc0b0cc51489de15254eeb04df800c.jpeg "[Dubstep] - Direct - Saga [Monstercat Release]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1DyRr5s9Tw&t=54s) ---
**Author:** ![yoyomaverick](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyomaverick/32/641_2.png) [@yoyomaverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomaverick)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/37 "2012-12-06T07:16:21Z")
Knife Party is not dubstep. It’s 175 bpm Drumstep. A mixture of Drum And Bass, and dubstep. MOSTLY. But they have some other stuff too, for the most part its not dubstep. Skrillex is edm for the most part. Deadmau5 does have some dubstep. The second half of raise your weapon is dubstep. Gotta have that 140 bpm with some wobbles and whatnot. I saw Datsik a few weeks ago live. And the music didn’t even matter. You couldn’t even make out what the noises were. It was just sub bass attacking your body. Crazay. ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/38 "2012-12-06T08:21:52Z")
The wobble-y stuff isn’t really what you’re after. That tends to be mid-range stuff, what you hear and feel coming from the subs is the sub-bass sitting underneath the ‘wobble’. You can blame that fad on Rusko’s ‘Cockney Thug’. 🙂 For the most part dubstep is drums, a bass/sub-bass line, and an intermittent synth part(which may be substituted for a rendered classical instrument, or a manipulated existing track of one(ahem, a dub?). See Skreams ‘Monsoon’(and Loefah’s remix) for some nice cello. But frequently there is almost no mid-line, pretty much just drums and bass. The thing that makes this Skrillex insanity the most annoying is all the screechy mid range stuff, its jarring, unpleasant and totally unlike anything what dubstep is. [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqnDDx8ALG8](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqnDDx8ALG8) ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/39 "2012-12-06T17:03:40Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > The wobble-y stuff isn’t really what you’re after. That tends to be mid-range stuff, what you hear and feel coming from the subs is the sub-bass sitting underneath the ‘wobble’. You can blame that fad on Rusko’s ‘Cockney Thug’. 🙂 > For the most part dubstep is drums, a bass/sub-bass line, and an intermittent synth part(which may be substituted for a rendered classical instrument, or a manipulated existing track of one(ahem, a dub?). See Skreams ‘Monsoon’(and Loefah’s remix) for some nice cello. But frequently there is almost no mid-line, pretty much just drums and bass. The thing that makes this Skrillex insanity the most annoying is all the screechy mid range stuff, its jarring, unpleasant and totally unlike anything what dubstep is. > > [http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqnDDx8ALG8](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqnDDx8ALG8) I get this, but are you saying there’s no room for innovation or differences within a genre? Pretty boring-■■■■■■■■■ if you can’t mix it up. And Skillrex’s stuff (though I don’t like all that screechiness either) proves that you can bring something new and become popular for it. I mean, if everyone followed the exact. same. formula. then what would be the point of there being different artists at all? And what would differentiate them? Breaking new ground is to be admired, not slagged, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![yoyo\_creep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyo_creep/32/908_2.png) [@yoyo\_creep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyo_creep)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110/40 "2012-12-06T17:19:29Z")
Why is our great yoyoer/electronica listening community debating over what is true dubstep? Just listen to what you like, and be proud of it. Simple. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dubstep/46110.md?page=3)