# Dogma vs two $60 yoyos

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [June 7, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074 "2015-06-07T13:52:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Connorspears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Connorspears](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Connorspears)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/1 "2015-06-07T13:52:30Z")

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I have 350 to spend on this site and I have picked out a VK Slusny, Shutter, Minute, and I am either going to get a Dogma (YYF) or two yoyo around $60. Any ideas? Thanks! 😃 EDIT: I am also highly considering swapping the Dogma for the Puffin 2. What do you think?

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**Author:** ![Connorspears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Connorspears](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Connorspears)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/2 "2015-06-07T15:02:38Z")

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I am looking for fast, stable performance yoyos. I tend to like V-shape better than H, W, and O. I am also a fan of less wide, smaller yoyos.

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**Author:** ![akka0710](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@akka0710](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/akka0710)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/3 "2015-06-07T15:13:20Z")

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Puffin 2

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**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/4 "2015-06-07T16:02:27Z")

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> [@Connorspears](#):
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> I am looking for fast, stable performance yoyos. I tend to like V-shape better than H, W, and O. I am also a fan of less wide, smaller yoyos.

Buy 4.5 Echo 2s.

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**Author:** ![akka0710](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@akka0710](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/akka0710)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/5 "2015-06-07T16:18:49Z")

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Rainfly  
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**Author:** ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/6 "2015-06-07T16:53:53Z")

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Just saying but have you looked into these?

> **[Turning Point](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/turning-point)**
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> 2009 World Champion Kentaro Kimura is one of the most talented names in yo-yoing. His company, Turning Point, is responsible for innovating the "K-Pad" response which is now the industry standard. His first yo-yo, the Leviathan, quickly became a...

> **[YOYORECREATION](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/yoyorecreation)**
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> YoYoRecreation is the players choice in Japan and quickly becoming the crowd favorite around the world.  They are known for making the highest quality yo-yos, each designed to maximize characteristics needed for performance in competition.

> **[Sengoku](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/sengoku)**
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> Sengoku is a new company based in Nagakute, Japan creating some amazing high performance yo-yos with a cool story. The name Sengoku is an era in Japanese history when the country was in an internal war of samurai clans, finished only when Japan was...

They should fit your preferences although they’re a bit pricier it might be worth reconsidering your purchases.

I would also probly be buying a Steel before a dogma:

> **[iYoYo](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/iyoyo)**
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> iYoYo is a small company founded by 5 time EYYC Champion and yo-yo store owner Dave Geigle. Since their start iYoYo has put together an impressive team, including EYYC Champion Carlos Braun, and has started to gain a significant following. And once...

To actually answer your question though I’d probly grab a too hot and 86400 over the dogma. It just depends on what 2 yoyos you were planning on grabbing.

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**Author:** ![doug77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@doug77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/doug77)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/7 "2015-06-08T00:10:04Z")

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If it was up to me, I would wait a couple weeks and get the one drop titanium yoyo, which should be around 300 and the CLYW plastic Yeti, which should be coming out soon and around 60. It’s been my experience that I prefer one really great throw over a few merely good throws.

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**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dogma-vs-two-60-yoyos/75074/8 "2015-06-08T00:20:25Z")

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> [@doug77](#):
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> If it was up to me, I would wait a couple weeks and get the one drop titanium yoyo, which should be around 300 and the CLYW plastic Yeti, which should be coming out soon and around 40. It’s been my experience that I prefer one really great throw over a few merely good throws.
