# Does anyone make an extra wide C bearing? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [July 29, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066 "2019-07-29T18:44:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hughesj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hughesj/32/624162_2.png) [@hughesj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hughesj)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/1 "2019-07-29T18:44:57Z")
The gap width of my delrin wedge leaves much to be desired. Does anyone make a wider bearing to give it a little more space? or is there another way to increase the gap width? ---
**Author:** ![twitch77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/twitch77/32/60219_2.png) [@twitch77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/twitch77)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/2 "2019-07-29T18:52:28Z")
You can use shims 🙂 > **[YYJ Shims](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yyj-shims?_pos=1&_sid=0cb7171b0&_ss=r&variant=19951969796)** > > Shims by YoYoJam are built to offer a way to increase the gap width of your YoYoJam keeping it fixed at a larger size than normal. What this does is help make the yo-yo unresponsive since a wider gap means the string is less likely to grab the yo-yo... > **[Dif-E-Yo Shims](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/dif-e-yo-shims?_pos=2&_sid=0cb7171b0&_ss=r&variant=18870991684)** > > If you ever wanted a wider gap on your yo-yo the best way to achieve this is using "shims". Shims go on either side of a bearing to keep it out of the bearing well which increases your gap width to make the yo-yo less responsive.In the past these... ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/3 "2019-07-29T19:07:42Z")
I’d be wary about shimming most modern yo-yos since it most likely will create a gap between the bearing and yo-yo that the string could get stuck in. ---
**Author:** ![Myk\_Myk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/myk_myk/32/63087_2.png) [@Myk\_Myk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Myk_Myk)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/4 "2019-07-29T19:37:25Z")
Beefcake!!! 🤣🤣 > **[Beefcake](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Beefcake)** > > Beefcaking is a mod that involves adding an additional bearing to a yo-yo to widen its string gap to allow for advanced, low-responsive string tricks. Although most yo-yos can be beefcaked, very few can actually benefit from the addition of an extra... ---
**Author:** ![pep65](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pep65/32/54510_2.png) [@pep65](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/pep65)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/5 "2019-07-29T21:09:43Z")
wow ! got to try this… ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/6 "2019-07-30T00:13:08Z")
I am so trying this ---
**Author:** ![hughesj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hughesj/32/624162_2.png) [@hughesj](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hughesj)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/7 "2019-07-30T00:26:37Z")
thanks for the suggestions guys, i wound up just making 4 shims out of a 3x5 card and put 2 behind each spacer. works like a charm and gave me about .4mm extra in gap width. ---
**Author:** ![Legyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legyoyo/32/995_2.png) [@Legyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legyoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/8 "2019-07-30T15:13:28Z")
Might I suggest beginning some pricey R&D with duplex bearings? I’ve always wanted to know how they’d do in a yo-yo. If they are even made that small… ![1575](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/6/d/6/6d67f7c4afb61982abe8af6c675460900cbde412.png) ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/9 "2019-07-30T15:19:28Z")
… could I shim a Deep State? @Nathan ---
**Author:** ![Xanadu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xanadu/32/84910_2.png) [@Xanadu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xanadu)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/10 "2019-07-30T19:28:28Z")
You could use thinner response pads. Like the OD 19mm slim pads or put in some highly worn pads from another throw. Note: The OD slim pads are still very snappy, especially if you use a flat bearing. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/11 "2019-07-31T14:46:00Z")
I think so. It’s a full width bearing that sits pretty deep into the halves normally right? ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/12 "2019-07-31T14:56:43Z")
Yeah deep enough that it only reveals about as much surface area as a half-spec. Should probably ask @da5id or @The_Machinist though, lol. Don’t want to ruin my Deep State somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Legyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legyoyo/32/995_2.png) [@Legyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legyoyo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/13 "2019-07-31T16:28:44Z")
The only reason it’d mess it up is probably over tightening. Since it’s more space between the halves, you’ll want to make sure the axle is long enough to properly thread while not messing up the shaft or the axle (via stripping/cross-threading, etc.). Other than that, and as long as you’re not forcing anything, no harm no foul as far as I can tell. If it’s relevant: If you’re in need of a supreme long axle, you can find them at most hardware stores online (I haven’t ever found one in person, just to order). M4-0.7 set screw (aka grub screw) is typical. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/14 "2019-07-31T16:31:00Z")
Sweet! Since the Deep State has Side Effects, I guess stripping wouldn’t be an issue as long as it’s got enough thread to grab, but I will err on the side of caution and get a longer set screw just in case. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/15 "2019-07-31T17:33:46Z")
You are free to try anything you want of course at your own risk 🙂 Things to consider though: 1. It’s possible that the bearing posts won’t make it into the I.D. of the bearing 2. The set screw (16mm) is glued into one of the Side Effects. It’s glued in the exact spot so that it’s centered. Likely you’ll no longer have a centered axle if you break the glue and take it out. 3. The next size up is 20mm which will probably be too long. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/16 "2019-07-31T17:47:01Z")
That was disappointing, but concise! Thanks! Is there a method you can recommend (at my own risk of course, no liability for my curiosity) to make the Deep State into a silly unresponsive? ---
**Author:** ![YoYoExpertGarrett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoexpertgarrett/32/1543_2.png) [@YoYoExpertGarrett](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/YoYoExpertGarrett)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/17 "2019-07-31T18:16:30Z")
The thick difeyo shims seem to be just the right size to make a deep state unresponsive. Didn’t need a new axle, didn’t break the glue on the current axle (although this could be a concern so use caution when tightening), and it plays dead smooth. > **[Dif-E-Yo Shims](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/dif-e-yo-shims)** > > If you ever wanted a wider gap on your yo-yo the best way to achieve this is using "shims". Shims go on either side of a bearing to keep it out of the bearing well which increases your gap width to make the yo-yo less responsive.In the past these... ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/18 "2019-07-31T18:17:29Z")
Not sure it can ever be a good 2A yoyo because of the gap and the weight. But lots of thick lube in the bearing will make it really responsive. The pads are above flush and the bearing ships lubed and it’s responsive (we call it semi-responsive because it doesn’t really work for 2A). But the more and thicker the lube, the more response. ---
**Author:** ![adamantiumpops](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/adamantiumpops/32/198285_2.png) [@adamantiumpops](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/adamantiumpops)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/19 "2019-07-31T18:19:22Z")
> [@YoYoExpertGarrett](#): > > thick difeyo shims Yaaaasss. Thanks! > [@da5id](#): > > Not sure it can ever be a good 2A yoyo Was actually looking to go the opposite direction, lol. LLESS responsive so I have a super slim 1A. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066/20 "2019-07-31T18:19:59Z")
Overall I’m a little confused by this thread. The desire seems to be a wider bearing or a shimmed bearing (effectively the same thing) but also more responsive? A bigger gap creates less response. I might have missed something along the way here though. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-make-an-extra-wide-c-bearing/306066.md?page=2)