# Does anyone know how to make a 4a yoyo?

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**Created:** [May 11, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224 "2019-05-11T23:22:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![yoyoislife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoislife/32/51465_2.png) [@yoyoislife](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoislife)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224/1 "2019-05-11T23:22:04Z")

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I have an old 1a yoyo, but the response pads fell off and it only spins for like 10 seconds.

Is there a way to optimize it for off-string tricks?

I also have a pro z that has response pads, but it barely spins and it’s very light BUT it’s very wide and easy to catch.

I’m gonna try the pro z but I’ve never tried 4a so idk what’s best, maybe you do?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224/2 "2019-05-11T23:26:19Z")

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wow. Back when I started out, I tried 1a, 4a, and 5a on a yotricks Sage (yyf onestar). It wasn’t the best for 5a and certainly wasn’t optimal for 4a but it worked. I think as long as it plays responsively, it should work for 4a.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224/3 "2019-05-12T05:07:33Z")

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> [@yoyoislife](#):
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> I have an old 1a yoyo…
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> Is there a way to optimize it for off-string tricks?

It might help if you said just what yoyo it is. There’s a lot of “old 1a” yoyos around some of which may or may not be suitable…

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224/4 "2019-05-12T05:25:13Z")

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I have a duncan pro z and a yoyo king Merlin

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**Author:** ![shatterFX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/shatterfx/32/66476_2.png) [@shatterFX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/shatterFX)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-how-to-make-a-4a-yoyo/302224/5 "2019-05-12T14:35:12Z")

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I’d probably just get a YYF Flight - i think they’re only like $25.