# Does anyone know about the outlier 4? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 23, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153 "2023-09-23T03:53:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![K1LCr09](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/k1lcr09/32/268600_2.png) [@K1LCr09](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/K1LCr09)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/1 "2023-09-23T03:53:00Z")
I noticed on Brandon Vu’s website that the Outlier 3 is no longer up for sale. My freind has an Outlier 3 and I have used it before and I have been drawn close to it so I am wondering when a new one will come out. ---
**Author:** ![abellia](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/abellia/32/627459_2.png) [@abellia](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abellia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 3:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/2 "2023-09-23T03:56:34Z")
Yep - he’s been bringing protos of it to contests and competing with it. It’s also in some of the vids (very early shot of the cup in the reminiscent vid, and in the collab vid with hafu.) What we know so far is that it’s 66~g, 50~mm wide, plays great, and is 6061+ss, but…that’s about it. I suspect it’ll drop whenever he finishes his vid talking about it haha ---
**Author:** ![Winter.Wolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/winter.wolf/32/213286_2.png) [@Winter.Wolf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Winter.Wolf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/3 "2023-09-23T04:45:19Z")
Here are shots of what I believe it looks like (taken from hafu’s video) ![IMG_1910](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/a/f/1af40f89abd9a2fcd7e810e1f4d324296c966fae.jpeg) ![IMG_1914](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/3/4/53461961aa012e3c49529ff96c8942b0362a8ca5.jpeg) ![IMG_1915](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/f/3/cf35360c06e24a5a8d6f9989d8009f7fc6e0fe26.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![zaf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zaf/32/235871_2.png) [@zaf](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zaf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/4 "2023-09-23T04:47:18Z")
Pics from somebody in discord of it and the mini ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/b/6/5b678a3df5ab8c5bc57c927178d333e527ba9ea2.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/8/0/b/80b0f6985431e4ff23b7292f8b681dfcacf05f46.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![p44company](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/p44company/32/253678_2.png) [@p44company](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/p44company)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2023, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/5 "2023-09-23T06:30:46Z")
looks like he beefed up the profile width to 47- 48mm for the outlier+, either way im digging this ---
**Author:** ![rkalajian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rkalajian/32/672584_2.png) [@rkalajian](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rkalajian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anyone-know-about-the-outlier-4/385153/6 "2023-10-19T20:10:40Z")
Turns out the Outlier+ is 50mm, as is the new Deviant+!