# Does anybody here actually like TMBR? **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 22, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859 "2013-07-22T04:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JetEyeNight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@JetEyeNight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JetEyeNight)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/61 "2013-07-23T00:52:07Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > What in the heck keeps making you people think I’m not using thick cotton string? > > Polyester is fine on a. Butterfly, metal axle. That’s hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/62 "2013-07-23T00:54:41Z")
Oops! I guess you said Imperial. But… same freaking thing, metal axle, starbust response. Polyester’s just fine in that application. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/63 "2013-07-23T01:03:08Z")
> [@YoyoGeezer](#): > > Is the original poster allowed to not like the TMBR? > > It seems like everyone is piling in with helpful ways to make the TMBR work better than it does out of the box. Perhaps that is the problem. If it can be made so much better by tweaking it - why does it not come with these tweaks already at $50? > > People seem to be jumping through a lot of hoops to make this throw play like a good yoyo. Why not just get a good yoyo for $50? I could care less if the original poster likes or dislikes TMBR. If they do, good for them. If they don’t, then good for them too. As far as I’m concerned, anyone can like or dislike any brand or model for any reason, including no reason at all. I myself like to play most yoyos stock. OK, so sometimes I like to swap bearings out. With TMBR, I don’t really have those kind of options. I bought into TMBR fully expecting to have a difficult time with these yoyos as a result of my own shortcomings in my highly limited yoyo skill set. They are what they are, and I like them for what the are and the way they are. I also agree with your point of “why doesn’t TMBR already come with these tweaks pre-done to them?” When I buy a yoyo, I expect it to play like it is expected to play. I don’t want my DM2’s to play like myBurnside. I don’t want my Chief to play like my Anglam. I don’t want my Raptor to play like my V. I also agree: for $50, I could probably get a “better” unresponsive yoyo, including a metal. As I’ve been known to say like a broken record: preferences. Nobody has to like or dislike anything they don’t want to. ---
**Author:** ![GregP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gregp/32/1192_2.png) [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/64 "2013-07-23T01:11:15Z")
It seems to a few of us that the slightly less responsive gap in a TMBR _is_ the way it is expected to play. That you can tweak from there is certainly a benefit, since I don’t like my fixed-axle throws that unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![JetEyeNight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@JetEyeNight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JetEyeNight)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/65 "2013-07-23T01:45:25Z")
> [@Mikers](#): > > Oops! I guess you said Imperial. But… same freaking thing, metal axle, starbust response. Polyester’s just fine in that application. Have you tried cotton? Then you would know there is a huge difference. Fixed axles are intended to be played with cotton. ---
**Author:** ![Nathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathan/32/191605_2.png) [@Nathan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nathan)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/66 "2013-07-23T03:58:31Z")
I like TMBR a lot though I do agree that the standard Baldwin is too light. ---
**Author:** ![jrodriguez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jrodriguez/32/7914_2.png) [@jrodriguez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrodriguez)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/67 "2013-07-23T04:42:03Z")
^^ Agreed. I’ve been super stoked with the Lovejoy, though. There needs to be more of those in the world, and in my collection. 🙂 Mikers, if one of those TMBRs you have and don’t like is a Lovejoy, drop me a PM with a price. I find TMBRs to be a little less responsive than I prefer right out of the box … er, dislodged from the envelope. But that’s preferable to me because it both allows for customizability and compels experimenting, which is a big part of what you’re signing up for with fixed axle wood yoyos - at least that’s been my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Mikers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Mikers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mikers)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/68 "2013-07-23T04:51:58Z")
Nah, they were Irvings aand Baldwin’s, and have all been given away at this point. ---
**Author:** ![frodoslair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/frodoslair/32/833_2.png) [@frodoslair](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/frodoslair)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/69 "2013-07-23T06:13:14Z")
> [@JetEyeNight](#): > > > [@Mikers](#): > > > > Oops! I guess you said Imperial. But… same freaking thing, metal axle, starbust response. Polyester’s just fine in that application. > > Have you tried cotton? Then you would know there is a huge difference. Fixed axles are intended to be played with cotton. Not necessarily. If you read Mikers posts, you would see that he is using thick cotton string on his TMBRs (ie. wood axles). The only time he has used poly, is on a steel fixed axle (such as an Imperial or Butterfly). He is correct in stating that poly is perfectly acceptable in that application. Wood? Definitely not… Steel? No problem. I use poly on my Butterfly and it certainly lasts longer and is more reliable than cotton. ---
**Author:** ![JetEyeNight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@JetEyeNight](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JetEyeNight)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2013, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/70 "2013-07-23T07:16:42Z")
> [@frodoslair](#): > > > [@JetEyeNight](#): > > > > > [@Mikers](#): > > > > > > Oops! I guess you said Imperial. But… same freaking thing, metal axle, starbust response. Polyester’s just fine in that application. > > > > Have you tried cotton? Then you would know there is a huge difference. Fixed axles are intended to be played with cotton. > > Not necessarily. If you read Mikers posts, you would see that he is using thick cotton string on his TMBRs (ie. wood axles). The only time he has used poly, is on a steel fixed axle (such as an Imperial or Butterfly). He is correct in stating that poly is perfectly acceptable in that application. Wood? Definitely not… Steel? No problem. I use poly on my Butterfly and it certainly lasts longer and is more reliable than cotton. Hmmm, that’s interesting. Poly certainly works, but I get much better results from cotton. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/71 "2013-07-24T04:51:13Z")
> [@JetEyeNight](#): > > > [@frodoslair](#): > > > > > [@JetEyeNight](#): > > > > > > > [@Mikers](#): > > > > > > > > Oops! I guess you said Imperial. But… same freaking thing, metal axle, starbust response. Polyester’s just fine in that application. > > > > > > Have you tried cotton? Then you would know there is a huge difference. Fixed axles are intended to be played with cotton. > > > > Not necessarily. If you read Mikers posts, you would see that he is using thick cotton string on his TMBRs (ie. wood axles). The only time he has used poly, is on a steel fixed axle (such as an Imperial or Butterfly). He is correct in stating that poly is perfectly acceptable in that application. Wood? Definitely not… Steel? No problem. I use poly on my Butterfly and it certainly lasts longer and is more reliable than cotton. > > Hmmm, that’s interesting. Poly certainly works, but I get much better results from cotton. The friction from the polyester fibers on the fixed WOOD axle can cause the polyester fibers to melt or break down very quickly. While it CAN work, it’s very much advised to NOT use polyester string. With metal axles, it’s no big deal, use whatever you want. ---
**Author:** ![N8dogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@N8dogg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/N8dogg)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/72 "2013-07-24T05:52:34Z")
I have a Lovejoy and an Eh. I suck at fixed axle. SUCK. But they both work well for me. I prefer the Eh. Like Studio said, opinions are opinions. Everyone is entitled to his/her own. ---
**Author:** ![redneckyoyoer3826](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@redneckyoyoer3826](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/redneckyoyoer3826)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/73 "2013-07-24T16:45:09Z")
My Irving is REALLY light IMO. Actually, right out of the envelope (LOL) it was nice and responsive enough. But then I put one of the cotton strings that I bought from here on it, and you have to make the string really tight for it to work well. Not to mention, I am a little paranoid about knotting it…but I can pick a knot pretty well now, so if it happens I should be all good. ---
**Author:** ![Mctron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mctron/32/1188_2.png) [@Mctron](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mctron)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2013, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859/74 "2013-07-24T18:25:30Z")
the baldwin according to YYE is .5 grams heavier than the irving pro. I like the weight of the baldwin. I can’t wait to get my No jive [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/does-anybody-here-actually-like-tmbr/56859.md?page=3)