# DM + Ceramic KonKave ??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292 "2009-06-16T22:22:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Samurai-Hacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samurai-hacker/32/208_2.png) [@Samurai-Hacker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samurai-Hacker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/1 "2009-06-16T22:22:25Z")
DM + Ceramic KonKave if i got these 2 well it be better or sleeps longer than the 888 or superstar or no ??? ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/2 "2009-06-16T22:25:15Z")
Depends on thorw. Andre said he got his DM unresponsive from a KK. Not sure if its ceramic, but it sleeps looooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg. eight/8/eight or SuperStar, hmmmm. Creamic KonKave, long spinning yoyo with good metal rims, or SPEC, and all metal. I think DM with Cer. KK will sleep about 1-1/2 min. longer. ---
**Author:** ![Samurai-Hacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samurai-hacker/32/208_2.png) [@Samurai-Hacker](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samurai-Hacker)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/3 "2009-06-16T22:33:17Z")
thank you ;D it well be my first yoyo that sleeps long i have a yotech yoyo onle 20 sec sleeping and then it wakes up 😛 and with that i do all my tricks really fast just to have a bit spin left to get it back :-[ ---
**Author:** ![speedmaker1101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/speedmaker1101/32/95_2.png) [@speedmaker1101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/speedmaker1101)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/4 "2009-06-16T22:38:01Z")
sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/5 "2009-06-16T23:46:15Z")
> [@\_|@\<06](#): > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper Yes. You don’t need to get a ceramic bearing as long as you have a good throw. Yes it can add sleep time to the yoyo, but people with good throws can easily get a Dark Magic to sleep for several minutes, more than enough to do tricks with. ---
**Author:** ![DaShiznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dashiznit/32/62_2.png) [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/6 "2009-06-17T00:18:37Z")
> [@\_|@\<06](#): > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper Haha I love this saying. But if you want to know the spin time, I got an 8 min spin time with my Hitman (with the KKC). ---
**Author:** ![speedmaker1101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/speedmaker1101/32/95_2.png) [@speedmaker1101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/speedmaker1101)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/7 "2009-06-17T18:22:22Z")
> [@D@§h!zn!t](#): > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper > > Haha I love this saying. But if you want to know the spin time, I got an 8 min spin time with my Hitman (with the KKC). :o you make me want to get a ceramic kk just to be like LOOK AT THIS!!! with my friends lol they are amazed by 1 minute ---
**Author:** ![DaShiznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dashiznit/32/62_2.png) [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/8 "2009-06-17T20:43:41Z")
> [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > [@D@§h!zn!t](#): > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper > > > > Haha I love this saying. But if you want to know the spin time, I got an 8 min spin time with my Hitman (with the KKC). > > :o you make me want to get a ceramic kk just to be like LOOK AT THIS!!! with my friends lol they are amazed by 1 minute Haha. Sleep time isn’t everything. ;D ---
**Author:** ![speedmaker1101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/speedmaker1101/32/95_2.png) [@speedmaker1101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/speedmaker1101)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/9 "2009-06-22T01:07:21Z")
Im getting a ceramic kk for my hitman ;D ---
**Author:** ![catorameus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/catorameus/32/175_2.png) [@catorameus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/catorameus)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/10 "2009-06-22T01:20:43Z")
Like everyone says, sleep time isn’t everything. Smoothness with tricks is more important than having a very long sleeping yo-yo(in my opinion at least). And also, it doesn’t matter if you have KK bearings if your throw isn’t very good. Just practice your throw over and over until you get a strong, stable sleeper. Right now, I have a DM with the stock bearings, and I can make it sleep for over 3 minutes with no thin lube or anything. Just PRACTICE. :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/11 "2009-06-25T03:13:59Z")
> [@Apetrunk](#): > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper > > Yes. You don’t need to get a ceramic bearing as long as you have a good throw. Yes it can add sleep time to the yoyo, but people with good throws can easily get a Dark Magic to sleep for several minutes, more than enough to do tricks with. If that was the case, what is the point of having a konkave bearing? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/12 "2009-06-25T03:18:52Z")
Aw. Come on man. KKs are a waste if you ask me. Just break in the stock bearing. Throw the yoyo a lot and in the end it will pay off. You get a nice, semi-quiet, long-spinning bearing. Save your money and buy some string with that. Lol ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/13 "2009-06-25T03:20:03Z")
> [@Domin123](#): > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper > > > > Yes. You don’t need to get a ceramic bearing as long as you have a good throw. Yes it can add sleep time to the yoyo, but people with good throws can easily get a Dark Magic to sleep for several minutes, more than enough to do tricks with. > > If that was the case, what is the point of having a konkave bearing? If you have a bad throw, they center the string. ---
**Author:** ![mattsk8nike](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mattsk8nike/32/213_2.png) [@mattsk8nike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mattsk8nike)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dm-ceramic-konkave/3292/14 "2009-06-25T03:59:40Z")
> [@gm user](#): > > > [@Domin123](#): > > > > > [@Apetrunk](#): > > > > > > > [@\_|@\<06](#): > > > > > > > > sleep time isnt everything! plus you have to have a good straight throw to get a good sleeper > > > > > > Yes. You don’t need to get a ceramic bearing as long as you have a good throw. Yes it can add sleep time to the yoyo, but people with good throws can easily get a Dark Magic to sleep for several minutes, more than enough to do tricks with. > > > > If that was the case, what is the point of having a konkave bearing? > > If you have a bad throw, they center the string. If that’s the case, just practice the throw. Later on, the KK will spoil you.