# differences between gasket makers **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [December 4, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293 "2011-12-04T07:06:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mingfu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@mingfu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mingfu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/1 "2011-12-04T07:06:55Z")
differences between the red rtv gasket maker and the normal permatex flowable silicone for windshields and stuff (basically the stuff sold on yye) ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/2 "2011-12-04T07:18:36Z")
red is “high temp” meaning it can withstand hotter temperatures, which makes no difference for yoyoing. normal stuff (these numbers aren’t right, but they’re in the general ball park I think) can withstand around 450-550, whereas red high temp can withstand like 650-750. last I checked, a yoyo doesn’t get that hot though. lol ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/3 "2011-12-04T07:30:47Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > red is “high temp” > meaning it can withstand hotter temperatures, which makes no difference for yoyoing. > normal stuff (these numbers aren’t right, but they’re in the general ball park I think) can withstand around 450-550, whereas red high temp can withstand like 650-750. > > last I checked, a yoyo doesn’t get that hot though. lol Are you sure about that? I think Mickey wears those gloves because he’s burning that yoyo up! ---
**Author:** ![mingfu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@mingfu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mingfu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/4 "2011-12-04T17:49:44Z")
o ok ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/5 "2011-12-04T18:00:38Z")
Flowable silicone is easier to apply to a yoyo since it basically flows into a groove but flowable silicone doesn’t last as long as Gasket Maker and is somewhat grippier. Gasket Maker is a thick silicone, that is a little harder to apply but can last longer than flowable. All silicone is RTV, which stands for Room Temperature Vulcanizing, which means it dries at room temperature. ---
**Author:** ![mingfu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@mingfu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mingfu)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/6 "2011-12-06T02:38:54Z")
how long does normal permatex silicone last? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/7 "2011-12-06T06:23:48Z")
> [@mingfu](#): > > how long does normal permatex silicone last? It can last a long time. I don’t personally agree with people saying that flowable doesn’t last as long. But, my experience isn’t really with the other kinds of RTV silicone. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/8 "2011-12-06T07:47:02Z")
the rtv I get from the 99 cent store lasts quite some time. atleast a month if done properly, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/9 "2011-12-06T08:00:23Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > the rtv I get from the 99 cent store lasts quite some time. atleast a month if done properly, I’d say. Once a month isn’t all that bad, although that doesn’t sound like a very long time. I mean, I could live with a monthly maintenance routine. I’d prefer a longer time between maintenance though. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/10 "2011-12-06T21:37:24Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > the rtv I get from the 99 cent store lasts quite some time. atleast a month if done properly, I’d say. I didn’t get mine from the dollar store but mine lasts for like 3-4 months. ---
**Author:** ![dynikus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dynikus/32/812_2.png) [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/11 "2011-12-06T23:23:21Z")
once a month was a bit of an underestimate. I’ve only had to change it once in my lunatic. and I got my lunatic about 8 or 9 months ago. so about 3 or 4 would definitely be a much better estimate. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/12 "2011-12-06T23:27:15Z")
> [@dynikus](#): > > once a month was a bit of an underestimate. I’ve only had to change it once in my lunatic. and I got my lunatic about 8 or 9 months ago. so about 3 or 4 would definitely be a much better estimate. That seems pretty much like what normal response pads should last. ---
**Author:** ![PlasticWhip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/plasticwhip/32/896_2.png) [@PlasticWhip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/PlasticWhip)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/13 "2011-12-07T12:55:47Z")
> [@Studio42](#): > > > [@dynikus](#): > > > > once a month was a bit of an underestimate. I’ve only had to change it once in my lunatic. and I got my lunatic about 8 or 9 months ago. so about 3 or 4 would definitely be a much better estimate. > > That seems pretty much like what normal response pads should last. Funny cause I went right through my Raptors pads in about 3 weeks. > [@dynikus](#): > > once a month was a bit of an underestimate. I’ve only had to change it once in my lunatic. and I got my lunatic about 8 or 9 months ago. so about 3 or 4 would definitely be a much better estimate. Yeah, I play those particular ones every day. ---
**Author:** ![Judahham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Judahham](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Judahham)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/14 "2023-12-11T11:14:18Z")
Hey guys! I’m new to the page. I don’t yo-yo but my son Judah(6the grade) is really into it. He’s got a shutter trainer and went through two response pads pretty quickly. (He yo-yo’s a lot!) He read about the high temp rtv and we picked up some. I helped him out the first time and it seemed to go well(a bit messy) and he just took it all back apart yesterday to try it again. Is there any specific rtv that doesn’t shrink? We leveled off the rtv on the two ridges next to the spot where the response pad would go. I don’t think it shrank much but he was wondering if there was a kind/brand that would keep its form better. He’s very particular! ---
**Author:** ![Albertino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/albertino/32/302953_2.png) [@Albertino](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Albertino)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/15 "2023-12-11T11:19:46Z")
Hey, welcome to the forum to you and Judah. Many of us use this silicone called Permatex Ultra grey, there is also a transparent version of it but it is much more grippy but easier to apply (not that the grey is hard honesty). I think you can let Judah try them both (they not expensive) and then decide which one to use. I prefer the grey, it is much more slippy and permit more layers of string around the bearing without have the response system “bite” on the string too hard, the transparent (still from Permatex) is much more aggressive and responsive. > [@Permatex 22074 Ultra Grey for very unresponsive return system](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/permatex-22074-ultra-grey-for-very-unresponsive-return-system/374904): > > Hello everyone, First of all thanks to @mable to introduce me to this silicone (which also has better pictures), second sorry for my awful pictures and application I did not used silicone from ages. Let’s start from the beginning: I used to use the Motorsil D while living in Italy, it was a quite good silicone and quite unresponsive also easy to apply, moved in London I had to start use pads cause impossible to find that silicone here. From pads I always felt that I had quite an harsh respon… Another advice is let the silicone rest for full 24hours before use the yoyo, if Judah has only one yoyo I advice to take a second one so while one is drying with the new silicone he can play the other yoyo ---
**Author:** ![Judahham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Judahham](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Judahham)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/16 "2023-12-11T22:30:34Z")
This is Judah. I have gone through a few response pads and it got kind of stressful. So I got red rtv silicone to try. It is hard to put in and I am excited to try permatex ultra grey. ---
**Author:** ![Albertino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/albertino/32/302953_2.png) [@Albertino](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Albertino)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/17 "2023-12-12T07:47:50Z")
Hi Judah, yes mate the red one is much harder to put in and it crumbs very much (and also doesn’t work any better of the other), the only red silicone reliable is the Motorsil D which is easy to find in Italy but impossible to find in UK (not sure in USA). Go with the permatex ultra grey you can find it easy everywhere, a tube it last ages (at this point I lost the count of many yoyos I siliconed), if you play a lot like me (around 4/5 hours a day) you will have probably to silicone again every 2 months (I like the response pad very weared off). Let us know how you find it, I tried many response pads and the permatex grey is for sure my fav ---
**Author:** ![Judahham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Judahham](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Judahham)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/18 "2023-12-12T13:15:01Z")
I heard somebody say something about flowable silicone. Is that good? ---
**Author:** ![Albertino](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/albertino/32/302953_2.png) [@Albertino](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Albertino)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/19 "2023-12-12T13:16:28Z")
The transparent Permatex, is much more grippy than the grey one, as the prices is not too high I would say maybe buy both grey and transparent and then try them both and decide which one you like the most ---
**Author:** ![Judahham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Judahham](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Judahham)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/differences-between-gasket-makers/32293/20 "2023-12-12T15:04:56Z")
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