# Dif pads not working :\< **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [November 29, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131 "2011-11-29T02:54:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kyle700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyle700](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kyle700)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/1 "2011-11-29T02:54:05Z")
this happened before to me with the DMII pads when I first got it, they were completely unresponsive. It ended up that I hadn’t taken the covers off of the pads and had them in backward… :\< The same things happened with these pads, but I can’t find any cover, and only one side is sticky… Am I missing something? They’re COMPLETELY unresponsive… 😕 I feel silly, but eek. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/2 "2011-11-29T03:03:49Z")
So do you wan’t the yoyo to be responsive? Dif-pads are known to be pretty slippy. Your best bet would be to just buy some flowable silicone and silicone the yoyo. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyle700](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kyle700)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/3 "2011-11-29T03:17:25Z")
No, I’d like it to come back to my hand. I can’t put silicone in my M1 because the groove is too small. The problem is the pads are totally unresponsive. No bind will make the yoyo come back… It’s like the pads aren’t there… ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/4 "2011-11-29T03:19:53Z")
Does the yoyo think at the end of the string when you throw it? If it does you have a problem, if it doesn’t just practice getting a good consistent bind. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyle700](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kyle700)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/5 "2011-11-29T03:23:54Z")
Nah, It’s not my bind. Like I said, it’s as if the pads are not there. When I throw it, it just slips right out. I can’t find an explanation haha. ---
**Author:** ![nobody](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nobody/32/845_2.png) [@nobody](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nobody)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/6 "2011-11-29T03:27:23Z")
> [@Kyle700](#): > > Nah, It’s not my bind. Like I said, it’s as if the pads are not there. When I throw it, it just slips right out. I can’t find an explanation haha. This is the “thunk” I was talking about, you should just buy some grippier pads like ghost pads. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/7 "2011-11-29T06:44:23Z")
What kind of string are you using? Dif pads are known not to work well with 100% poly. They work best with slick 6 or 8 (50/50) type string. ---
**Author:** ![jrodriguez](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jrodriguez/32/7914_2.png) [@jrodriguez](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jrodriguez)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/8 "2011-11-29T07:46:37Z")
[quote=“jhb8426,post:7,topic:32131”] Dude knows what he’s talking about. Dif pads and poly string don’t mix well, unless you’re pairing one Dif pad with a different type of pad - personally, I like one Dif with one Kentaro pad. If you don’t have another type of pad to pair it with, you can try looping the string around the bearing a second time and then exaggerating your bind. Depending on how wide the gap is on the yoyo you’re using, that should work until you can get a different pad or some 50/50 string. ---
**Author:** ![theOldestCraze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90ced4/32.png) [@theOldestCraze](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/theOldestCraze)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/9 "2011-11-29T08:01:06Z")
So, even when you wind the yo-yo up by hand, the string slips out when you throw?  Or when you wind it by hand, can you pull the string right out of the gap?  If so, that’s the pits. I would not suggest Dif pads with a DMII.  They are meant for a different response system.  I would suggest to either put silicone in it(the time-consuming route), or use the CBC pads, like the link below (the easier route): > **[YoYoFactory Response Pads](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yoyofactory-yoyo-response)** > > These are YoYoFactory made response by the Central Bearing Company (CBC) built to fit the majority of yo-yos available today from a wide array of manufacturers. CBC "Slim Pad" Size 19mm OD are now available in different versions: White Pads:The... It says “yoyofactory”, but these will fit in the groove the DMII has.  Just pick the “slim” option, and match your choice to the stock “response system” section of this: > **[YYJ Dark Magic II](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/yyj-dark-magic-ii-yoyo)** > > We feel the Dark Magic is hands down one of the best intermediate to advanced yo-yos on the market. With its wide metal aluminum rings, extra weight, and extra width it is the perfect yo-yo for learning string tricks that require a stable and long... Call the number under “Contact” if you have any questions.  The live help is actually helpful. I would also suggest using the slim bearing, if your yo-yo came with it.  That will make the yo-yo more responsive, and maybe even have it come up with a tug (instead of a bind). Hope you find the response you are looking for.  It’s a life-long journey to find the “perfect” set-up for you. -Jacob ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/10 "2011-11-29T11:20:28Z")
> **[YoYoJam](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/YoYoJam)** > > YoYoJam made some of the best beginner to advanced yo-yos on the market, all exclusively manufactured right here in the USA!  With over dozens of signature series models produced, their yo-yos are designed for the player by the... You might want to replace the response. ---
**Author:** ![Kyle700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyle700](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kyle700)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/11 "2011-11-30T04:01:40Z")
Ah whoops, I apparetly forgot to mention these aren’t for a DMII, they’re for an M1. Yes, it just slips right out. Binding really hard only works part of the time. I’m not sure whats up 😕 I’d put silicone in it, but the groove is flat and shallow, and it doesn’t hold silicone very long, and it’s easy to get it all over the bearing seat. So I ordered some of these dif pads instead but they’re “not working”. I’ll try it with 50/50. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dif-pads-not-working/32131/12 "2011-11-30T05:37:17Z")
> [@Kyle700](#): > > Yes, it just slips right out… I’m not sure whats up… So I ordered some of these dif pads instead but they’re “not working”. I’ll try it with 50/50. As noted above, the string is the issue. Dif pads and 100% poly don’t play nice together.