# Did sf go out of business?🤔

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [December 24, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440 "2021-12-24T18:53:29Z")
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### Author: ![Elyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@Elyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elyoyo)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/1 "2021-12-24T18:53:29Z")

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I was just wondering if sf yoyos went out of buisiness just got back into yoyoing seriously and i can seem to find a solid answer to if sf went out of business

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### Author: ![mable](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mable/32/194074_2.png) [@mable](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mable)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/2 "2021-12-24T18:59:15Z")

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They just released the Ignorance earlier this year, so to my (limited) knowledge no.

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### Author: ![Benmichael86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benmichael86/32/64422_2.png) [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/3 "2021-12-24T19:04:30Z")

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I always got weird vibes from SF. I guess the owner being anonymous made it easy to disappear without any explanation. I know the anonymity was supposed to be edgy and cool, but after a while it felt almost disrespectful.

They built up a pretty big team with some amazing players. Hopefully they find a way to continue to support them.

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### Author: ![leis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/leis/32/85320_2.png) [@leis](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/leis)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/4 "2021-12-24T19:11:02Z")

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I agree it’s a bit weird, but why staying anonymous is disrespectful?

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### Author: ![Elyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@Elyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elyoyo)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/5 "2021-12-24T19:31:27Z")

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I do see there is a car for sale on their website wich makes me think maybe the owner went bankrupt?

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### Author: ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/6 "2021-12-24T19:48:54Z")

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I was actually looking at Miatas the other day, but it’s the 100 Cadences in the trunk that got me like 👀

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/d/1/2d1a52537747f686bb367a42a97f159c14094fc7.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Elyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@Elyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elyoyo)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/7 "2021-12-24T20:00:39Z")

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I swearr​:rofl:👀

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### Author: ![Benmichael86](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/benmichael86/32/64422_2.png) [@Benmichael86](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Benmichael86)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/8 "2021-12-24T20:07:22Z")

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I realize it’s a yoyo brand, but think about if any other business were to be run anonymously. There is a lack of accountability when leadership is invisible.

Anecdotally, I had a problem with a yoyo I bought from them. I sent a message and never got a response. Then my options are to let it slide or reach out to a team member. I opted for the former choice. So, not only is it inconvenient for the customers, but your team members become your customer service representatives.

It just seemed to lose its novelty over time. I would rather support a company that is willing to put a face to their name.

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### Author: ![Blaidd\_Drwg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/blaidd_drwg/32/53190_2.png) [@Blaidd\_Drwg](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Blaidd_Drwg)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/9 "2021-12-24T20:17:32Z")

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I’ve actually been thinking about being a jerk and making a topic of what Yo-Yo brands are Extinct or are on the Endangered Species list.

SF are definitely on my presumed Extinct list.

I mean it might be a more interesting topic than “What is your Favorite Yo-Yo brand?”

I always laugh at that one because, everyone throws names out and I imagine all the newbies who just joined look at the store and see almost every brand listed as “not available”

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### Author: ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/10 "2021-12-24T21:44:10Z")

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It’s a joke

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### Author: ![Elyoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@Elyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Elyoyo)
#### Post date: [December 24, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/11 "2021-12-24T22:09:01Z")

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I agree it puts responsibility on their team wich is not a good way to recruit members to their team and become bigger and a big inconvenience but i wish things wouldn’t be this way because their yoyos are great

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### Author: ![hobbygod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hobbygod/32/120997_2.png) [@hobbygod](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hobbygod)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/12 "2021-12-25T00:14:36Z")

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They’re still in business. They did a b grade sale and ignorance at the beginning of the year. I know Remy’s capped AL design is in the works at the moment

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### Author: ![aszyd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/aszyd/32/151864_2.png) [@aszyd](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/aszyd)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/13 "2021-12-25T02:39:22Z")

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“At the beginning of the year”. That’s funny, cause we are at the end of the year now.

I have no evidence to prove one way or the other, but they definitely appear to be on hiatus.

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### Author: ![Damb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/damb/32/44045_2.png) [@Damb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Damb)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/14 "2021-12-25T02:46:53Z")

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I need me a Miata too 🤤

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### Author: ![cowmamba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/cowmamba/32/270859_2.png) [@cowmamba](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/cowmamba)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/15 "2021-12-25T03:24:54Z")

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Lol the Miata is meant as a joke. It’s been up on the site for a year, maybe even two years now at this point. SF is still very much alive. I’m pretty sure if they do decide to close shop, they’ll let the community know one way or another or the website will vanish.

Sometimes companies go silent while working on new stuff or when they don’t have something new to share yet. I know it stinks when there’s not constant / consistent posts on social media, but it happens. Especially when said companies are super small boutique companies.

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### Author: ![yoyojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/16 "2021-12-25T03:59:39Z")

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They just did a Collab with mowl (MRL-05)

> [@New collabs from MOWL - The MRL-04 and MRL-05!](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/new-collabs-from-mowl-the-mrl-04-and-mrl-05/349408):
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> MRL-04: The MRL-04 is based on the Petr Kavka’s signature Cliff with a larger diameter, signature undercut profile and double rim design. Weighing in at 67g it’s on the heavier side as far as modern throws go, but the unique weight distribution keeps it agile and maneuverable in play. The artwork is done by artist and yoyo legend Titifreak and with this release all MRL-04s come with a limited glow edition of Petr’s s…

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### Author: ![Isaac](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/isaac/32/597931_2.png) [@Isaac](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Isaac)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/17 "2021-12-25T05:16:26Z")

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> [@aszyd](#):
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> they definitely appear to be on hiatus.

Yo-yos are expensive and time consuming to produce.

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### Author: ![yoyodoc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyodoc/32/48820_2.png) [@yoyodoc](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyodoc)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 5:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/did-sf-go-out-of-business/349440/18 "2021-12-25T05:33:49Z")

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I am certainly no current affairs yo-yo journalist but from what I have gathered…… SF Yo-yos is not a/the primary money making enterprise for him/them/whoever?

It ‘seems’ that one of the primary motivations were the actual Yo-yo Contest events held around the Country before the Pandemic changed ‘everything’.

In these harder times, SF reserved most of their creative potential until things return closer to normal. Essentially allowing SF to focus more resources on actually generating more money from a non yo-yo related occupation.

By stepping back and recalculating ‘the future and purpose’, it allows SF to be in an even stronger position once they step up their pace again.

In other words, SF simply prioritized to accommodate the situation until things level out.

Nothing more…
