# Deepest State **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [October 8, 2025, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230 "2025-10-08T09:15:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/324 "2025-11-10T03:17:34Z")
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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/325 "2025-11-10T07:11:23Z")
> [@zxin](#): > > my Deepest State responds to the lightest tug like a lion smelling fresh blood; hitting me in the hand with immense velocity Hmm. Try cleaning / degreasing / de-oiling the bearing entirely using isopropyl alcohol or similar. I don’t recommend this because I dislike that hideous metal-on-metal grinding sound with the intensity of a thousand suns, but if you REALLY want absolutely ZERO responsiveness from the bearing.. that’s the way. As I found out the hard way, yo-yo bearings actually most frictionless with absolutely _zero lubricant_ in them. You will no longer want to be alive from all the noise, but hey, maybe that’s a tradeoff worth making.. for you :wink: > [@bheinz63](#): > > So, the Deepest State is without a doubt the best C Bearing responsive I’ve ever played (very close second would be the Thing by DocPop), and is quickly becoming my favorite responsive yoyo of all time. Its just perfection and happiness with every toss. I think I read that @edhaponik said that this will change your mind about C Bearing responsives, and thats 1000% correct. > > Kudos to all involved, a banger yoyo in every way. So happy to have one in the collection, and look forward to seeing more colors and more yoyos getting into more peoples hands. :100: agree, obviously biased, but I told @da5id I literally CANNOT think of any way this, as a c-bearing responsive, could possibly be made better (other than the smaller bearing, which is a whole different feel). And who knows what else the future could portend for the “State” series.. one wonders.. and one says “keep a close eye on the One Drop website over the next year” :wink: > [@edhaponik](#): > > We knew we could go DEEPESTER. Deeperer. Deepestest. > [@FugasYoyo](#): > > Now I need to buy a grease bucket. I do agree. You can get almost exactly the same highly responsive feel by heavily lubricating the One Drop standard bearing, _however_ with the greasebucket you never have to touch it for its entire lifetime, it is “set it and forget it forever”. > [@Wildo](#): > > I’m excited to see where they go with a cerakote release. @da5id I agree, the cerakotes are really cool. We gotta slot that in somewhere too. I wonder what color.. I don’t think “gold” would work in cerakote UNLESS you could get a sparkly gold HOLY CRAP that would be AMAZING. (my gut feeling is a jet black cerakote would be SUPER cool and a nice inversion from neon-green Deep, white Deeper.. a pure vantablack Deepest would be.. {chef’s kiss} .. the stealth bomber version..) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/4/3/543431931c9d4b5ffbb7f7be761dc3ab62e12305.jpeg) > [@BandH](#): > > I reckon this is a throw that could really benefit from being made in ti; a slight decrease the density would make it pretty much perfect given the snappy response Excellent feedback. Please start a new topic for thoughts in this area specifically. I want all feedback on “how can this yo-yo be improved in a specific material, based on our {extensive} playtime” in there. ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/326 "2025-11-10T12:43:27Z")
Oh man Vantablack would be SO cool! ---
**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/327 "2025-11-10T14:22:20Z")
> [@codinghorror](#): > > Hmm. Try cleaning / degreasing / de-oiling the bearing entirely using isopropyl alcohol or similar. Do One Drop lube fresh bearings before sending them out? I can’t remember. > [@codinghorror](#): > > As I found out the hard way, yo-yo bearings actually most frictionless with absolutely _zero lubricant_ in them. > > You will no longer want to be alive from all the noise, but hey, maybe that’s a tradeoff worth making.. for you :wink: Not a fan of noise lol. But if there’s no friction then what is even making the noise? Pixies trapped in the bearing who don’t like their home being spun around and around? > [@codinghorror](#): > > And who knows what else the future could portend for the “State” series.. one wonders.. and one says “keep a close eye on the One Drop website over the next year” :wink: > > Deeperer. Deepestest. Hey, you’ve gotta snap out of it at some point and become Solid State. Actually, that’d be a hilariously literal name for a re-release of the ultra-heavy Deep State prototype haha. Doesn’t represent how it plays though, which is basically the Deep State but even better for just throw/catch, sleeper, repeat; so based on how it plays it would be the ‘Catatonic State’. ---
**Author:** ![Wildo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wildo/32/668485_2.png) [@Wildo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Wildo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/328 "2025-11-10T14:34:57Z")
Or a super light one called, Flow State. Uh oh, I’m sensing a pattern here 😁 I wonder how out of hand this could become? Hah! Puuuuun innnntended! Anyway, quite the statement. “Ahhhh I can’t stop thinkin bout em now!” ---
**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/329 "2025-11-10T14:35:25Z")
It will definitely become out of hand once it’s thrown lol ---
**Author:** ![FugasYoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/fugasyoyo/32/627783_2.png) [@FugasYoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/FugasYoyo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/330 "2025-11-10T14:37:49Z")
Oh my! What colorway is this??? 😯 ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/331 "2025-11-10T16:37:09Z")
We have some names selected for “future things” out but oddly enough no one has guessed them.. yet :wink: I picked one name and @da5id already had another. They are _excellent_ names, I guarantee satisfaction™️ ---
**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/332 "2025-11-10T16:40:08Z")
Did nobody guess Dream State yet? ---
**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/333 "2025-11-10T16:57:31Z")
> [@zxin](#): > > Do One Drop lube fresh bearings before sending them out? I can’t remember. I do believe the bearings installed in all One Drop yo-yos purchased new are lightly lubed from factory. @da5id please correct me if I am mistaken, I don’t want to spread misinformation ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/334 "2025-11-10T17:43:24Z")
I wish I knew. Could be a tester. I hope we see some version of splash + Sight Lines. ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/335 "2025-11-10T18:49:13Z")
Lubed 10Balls are factory lubed. ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/336 "2025-11-10T19:07:42Z")
A perfectly clean bearing should be pretty quiet in my experience. ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/337 "2025-11-10T19:08:35Z")
SaTisfaction :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/338 "2025-11-10T20:15:04Z")
Well, yes, but at the cost of a very tiny bit of added friction. Lubing makes it smoother, and if you hyperspin the excess lubrication out, it’s only a very minor cost: > [@Why you, yes you, should lube your yo-yo bearing](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/why-you-yes-you-should-lube-your-yo-yo-bearing/291865): > > Before we begin, I’d like to note that this is historically one of the most controversial topics in yo-yoing. Take it from @Tvelto: [[My Unpopular Yoyo Opinions] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoGKRyksrbM&t=12m34s) I don’t know why this is a controversial opinion, but it totally is. This is my unpopular [yo-yo] opinion that has gotten more hate than any opinion I’ve ever stated … ever. Yo-yo lube, and lubing your bearings, is essential. Bearing runs smoother, bearing runs quieter. “Oh, my yo-yo is dead smooth!” Yeah, not if you don’… But **if you want PERFECT, zero-friction then you gotta completely get ALL the lubrication out**. Just give it a shot, clean it with isopropyl alcohol. I’ll post an example in the above, try it myself and show you. It will be noisier, but your tolerance for that depends on you.. > [@Tempura](#): > > SaTisfaction > > _Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles_ suggests that T-800s are made out of [**coltan**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coltan): > > > John Connor: That’s coltan; if that’s what you’re made of, no wonder you’re so dense. > > > > Cameron Phillips: Not density, heat resistance. T-600 models had a titanium alloy endoskeleton, but it was vulnerable to heat. Coltan alloys have a much higher melting point. > > Coltan consists of the elements [niobium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niobium) and [tantalum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantalum) (both metals). ---
**Author:** ![Son-of-Morris](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/son-of-morris/32/250533_2.png) [@Son-of-Morris](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Son-of-Morris)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/339 "2025-11-10T20:23:19Z")
All I know is the “Too Deep” has to have some red splash in there for certain ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/340 "2025-11-10T21:08:53Z")
So my cleaning routine is basically soak in 99% isopropyl, rinse in my sink while hand spinning until it feels smooth or repeat until it does, and then completely dry the bearing with a datavac. This results in audible but pleasant sounding yoyos as long as you’re using a quality bearing, with the main benefit being no break in and consistent low responsiveness. The thing is that they get messed up and go loud from even a small amount of dust. ---
**Author:** ![Upmanyu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e68b1a/32.png) [@Upmanyu](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Upmanyu)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/341 "2025-11-10T21:19:45Z")
> [@Tempura](#): > > rinse in my sink while hand spinning I have never heard anyone rinse a ball bearing. With water? Why not just dry it straight out of the isopropyl? ---
**Author:** ![Tempura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tempura/32/246135_2.png) [@Tempura](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Tempura)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/342 "2025-11-10T21:24:49Z")
My logic was that soaking in alcohol does a good job of breaking down oils and whatnot but won’t do as much to displace small particles of dust in the bearing, and since I’m not just letting them air dry corrosion isn’t a concern. Anecdotally it does work better and doesn’t add significant time to my process so why not? ---
**Author:** ![hsb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/hsb/32/193274_2.png) [@hsb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/hsb)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230/343 "2025-11-10T21:25:49Z")
I have had bearings that did not fully clean until I flushed them under the tap. I assumed there was some kind of debris that agitation alone wouldn’t dislodge. [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230.md?page=16) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deepest-state/434230.md?page=18)