# Deeper state **URL:** \ **Category:** Buy / Sell / Trade\ **Created:** [May 12, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334 "2023-05-12T04:02:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/1 "2023-05-12T04:02:58Z")
Anyone have a deeper state they would be willing to part with. Color doesn’t matter. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Odd](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/odd/32/301732_2.png) [@Odd](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Odd)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/2 "2023-05-12T05:10:22Z")
I think yoyoexpert has some I stock now, or it might just be deep states ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/3 "2023-05-12T12:41:18Z")
It’s the Deep State. I have been looking. I’ve seen the Deep States popping up and heard about the Top Deck release, so I’ve hoped and waited but alas…here I am. At the old BST. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/4 "2023-05-12T13:08:11Z")
I messaged One Drop a couple weeks ago asking if they plan another Deeper State release. They said yes but they do not have a timeframe at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/5 "2023-05-13T04:05:05Z")
That’s good info right there. Thanks for sharing. I have a trade in the works right now. I love this community. ---
**Author:** ![TommyBwell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/tommybwell/32/304464_2.png) [@TommyBwell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TommyBwell)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/6 "2023-05-13T15:01:20Z")
PM sent ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/7 "2023-05-13T18:17:30Z")
Thanks to all. I now know the joy of the Deeper State. Please close. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/8 "2023-05-13T18:44:58Z")
How do you like it? I love my Deep States and been heavily debating picking up a Deeper State. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/9 "2023-05-13T19:54:11Z")
Let me slightly alter my previous statement. I will “soon be” enjoying the Deeper State. I will certainly let you know. I just love my Deep State. I did alter mine though. I put a half bearing in and sized shims out of brass washers to get it where the pads just start responding snappy and use a dry bearing. It spins super duper fast but still plays as slow or as fast as you like with as much snap in the response that you want. It can handle Trapeze and Brother. I’m hardly an expert but I have others (confusion) that snap back as soon as they hit the brother. In this configuration the Deep State pushed the RBC out of my spot as darling. 🫢 I plan to do the same with the Deeper State so my estimation of it won’t be everyone’s experience. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/10 "2023-05-13T20:16:47Z")
Ah maybe I should finally get around to trying the half spec and shims. I keep putting it off, but hear good things. ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/11 "2023-05-13T20:29:03Z")
I just don’t much care for the way a greased bearing slows the bearings down. I was able to achieve a response with my Deep State that is so close to the RBC I couldn’t believe it. And the bearing spins like (a thing that spins really fast). It just feels amazing. After that I couldn’t put it down. I’m looking forward to that wider catch zone though. I chose to go the slim route while learning in order to force me to be accurate and I don’t regret it. But there are just limits to what one can keep that narrow thing stable through. At least for me. ---
**Author:** ![GnarlyCharlie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gnarlycharlie/32/279610_2.png) [@GnarlyCharlie](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GnarlyCharlie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/12 "2023-05-13T20:42:49Z")
Looks like a slept too long in ordering the Dif-E-Yo shims, they’re all sold out now. What shims/washers did you use? ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/13 "2023-05-13T21:16:57Z")
I went to the bins at the hardware store and found the size brass washer that had a center hole that fit onto the bearing seat. I then used my dremel to cut off the excess circumference then I used the handle of some needle nosed pliers as a finger to run the washer over a file to remove thickness (turning it 1/4 turn every 5-8 strokes to keep it from getting un-level) and testing until I got just the response I was looking for. I had to also file the ends of the side effects in order to allow the axle to screw in further. Touchy business and not for the faint of heart, but achievable. Not the most beautiful but it’s not visible when assembled so I can live with that. The circumference does need to be small enough not to interfere with the outer ring of the bearing. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/a/6/ba66637b788103c3452f4a195e315ba9468b0d7a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/14 "2023-05-13T21:19:37Z")
Oh. I also had to shorten the axle a bit. You just need to make sure to bevel the edges. Again. Not for the faint of heart. Of course you can’t do anything that another set of side effects won’t fix!!😁 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/c/7/7c7f9bb3fa4cbd980bab4429329a420b868eda60.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/15 "2023-05-15T16:42:43Z")
Since I plan to give the Deeper State the same treatment, perhaps I’ll document the process in a new thread. :thinking: ---
**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/16 "2023-05-15T17:08:40Z")
I started a thread under mods and maint titled “How I mod my Deep State” ---
**Author:** ![vegabomb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/vegabomb/32/199_2.png) [@vegabomb](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/vegabomb)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2023, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deeper-state/375334/17 "2023-05-15T17:12:05Z")
Closed on May 15, 2023, 5:12pm UTC