# Deep State prototype appreciation

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [November 14, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224 "2025-11-14T14:06:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/1 "2025-11-14T14:06:47Z")

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Let’s come to together to appreciate the Deep State prototype. Not only is it an awesome throw, but it gave rise to the excellent blank-State series. Its massive weight might be a hazard, but its sky blue hues remind you:

> don’t think; just accidentally hurt your self with this enormous hunk of metal on a string.

[![Imgur](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/4/a/c4a5bbe65914075ebf816607feb9557aa77a4a0a.jpeg "Deep State Proto") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/onedropdesign/36650947444/in/photolist-Dfaviu-24jYoNm-2jt6ujg-2jt7Pcv-2jt6un7-GR4YHP-2jMvgK9-28YuuCd-2jt6urL-2iAmnmL-2jt6usT-KjZkH8-2jt3GuG-2jMvgKK-2iAhpSB-2jt6upb-2iAk3FR-2jMzCr5-2jt3Gyz-2rDSycq-2gRwJae-ZVP7xC-XQHFLY-2n687SC-2n639hH-2h6YYap-214Wic7-2h6YYci-24GHL2E-ZHUQjF-ZHUQzv-ZHUQac-2dWmySU-2qJ1jGy-2pBDHKX-2pvjLC9-2qbyaap-2qbAtTG-2qsWRAS-2qbzRTK-2rxZpJ5-2rznXWB-2rzphyM-ZHUQwp-2rzpedp-2rzpedz-2rzixys-2rznXX3-CSihPC-2rzKBFB)

Weight: ~68g with flat caps

Can anyone remember how many were made? I think it was 9. I might have a screenshot somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Slestak75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slestak75/32/212315_2.png) [@Slestak75](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Slestak75)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/2 "2025-11-14T15:00:50Z")

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> [@zxin](#):
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> Weight: ~68g with flat caps

 ![IMG_1654](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/0/1/a/01a8e81d9f7885671c9b2d3e4984c247dd81e7ad.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/3 "2025-11-14T15:50:19Z")

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Here’s the side effects I have in it.

 ![IMG_1380](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/2/3/923d2d95d3dd990b293f66bdee5f664a3f96e141.jpeg)

(Threw it a few times and knew it could stand to be heavier heheh)

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/4 "2025-11-14T20:26:49Z")

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Also super curious if anyone else on here has tried this throw & what their thoughts are?

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/5 "2025-11-15T08:24:15Z")

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@da5id (and @The_Machinist) what did you think of this? Curious.

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/6 "2025-11-15T09:13:13Z")

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Would be cool to hear Shawn’s POV too. ^^

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**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 6:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/7 "2025-11-17T18:53:32Z")

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Dangerous and didn’t perform right. Can’t remember how many made but around 10 sounds normal.

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**Author:** ![The\_Machinist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@The\_Machinist](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/The_Machinist)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/8 "2025-11-17T19:06:29Z")

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Sorry y’all my RAM is only good for a couple months(not 8 years!) and I’m terrible at documentation, hehe. I do remember throwing one of the first protos with a lubed bearing and being a little bit terrified of the return.

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**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/9 "2025-11-17T19:09:33Z")

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Ok, we did some research and the number is … 20!

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/10 "2025-11-17T19:09:43Z")

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If you never tried to do forward pass with it then be thankful! It’s like playing five finger fillet with your whole hand. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SlowThrow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/slowthrow/32/307451_2.png) [@SlowThrow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SlowThrow)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/11 "2025-11-17T19:10:09Z")

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You won’t shoot the moon with it

(Jk, I don’t condone violence, especially on oneself)

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/12 "2025-11-17T19:10:35Z")

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Thank you David! I’ll put that in my spreadsheet so that I can’t forget this time.

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**Author:** ![zxin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zxin/32/649326_2.png) [@zxin](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zxin)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/13 "2025-11-17T19:32:13Z")

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Saddest thing is I never got that far into looping tricks so—for the moment—you’re unfortunately correct.

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**Author:** ![codinghorror](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/codinghorror/32/8052_2.png) [@codinghorror](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/codinghorror)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/14 "2025-11-17T22:34:49Z")

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Yeah a lot of the smaller Ti yo-yos are kinda like this. WAY too dense for their size.

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**Author:** ![Captrogers](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/captrogers/32/647012_2.png) [@Captrogers](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Captrogers)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/deep-state-prototype-appreciation/436224/15 "2025-11-17T23:08:26Z")

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The full size ti that’s been going super thin have been pretty cool. Way too expensive mostly due to machining costs but cool all the same
