# Decisions decisions...Help

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**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [February 26, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766 "2010-02-26T04:30:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Joe34x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Joe34x](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe34x)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/1 "2010-02-26T04:30:13Z")

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Okay, so I have have The YYF Grind Machine(My first Unresponsive yo-yo) for sometime now and id like to believe Im advancing but i want to upgrade to a new Yo-yo. Im thinking of buying The dark magic because well i still have a good deal of practice ahead of me, but besides that i want an all metal Yo-Yo too, whats a good all metal yoyo for me to choose as my first ? preferably something affordable…opinions?.. ???

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/2 "2010-02-26T04:54:05Z")

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You might try any of the Fundametals or maybe an M1 from OneDrop if you can find one. The Dark Magic is also a great yoyo.

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**Author:** ![Joe34x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Joe34x](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe34x)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/3 "2010-02-26T05:23:34Z")

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Thanks, yah i looked it up and it might actually be my choice, Do you happen to know from where i can buy one?

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/4 "2010-02-26T15:31:42Z")

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The Dark Magic can be bought in the here YYE shop.

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**Author:** ![yo-yo\_dood\_95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo-yo_dood_95/32/395_2.png) [@yo-yo\_dood\_95](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yo-yo_dood_95)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/5 "2010-02-26T20:54:23Z")

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Or you could go with a metal zero. You can satin it then take out 1 sticker. Makes a nice, cheap, full metal, duncan, non-responsive yoyo. Its a good choice.

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**Author:** ![Joe34x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Joe34x](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Joe34x)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/decisions-decisions-help/11766/6 "2010-02-27T01:18:19Z")

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> [@yo-yo\_dood\_95](#):
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> Or you could go with a metal zero. You can satin it then take out 1 sticker. Makes a nice, cheap, full metal, duncan, non-responsive yoyo. Its a good choice.

Satin?.. yah but the Duncan name and the cheapness makes me question the quality of it as a yoyo worth buying but perhaps