# Dead Friction Sticker **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [January 8, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755 "2016-01-08T12:43:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/1 "2016-01-08T12:43:54Z")
Hey, does anyone have a dead Duncan friction sticker? I’m looking for one for my No Jive. I don’t use them and I could get a new one, but my understanding is that it needs to be a dead one. If not, does anyone have suggestions for something I could use in it’s place? ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/2 "2016-01-08T16:44:35Z")
I use Duncan 12mm silicone stickers.  They can be used new. > **[Duncan Response](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/products/duncan-silicone-groove-sg-yoyo-stickers?variant=41206787997886)** > > This is replacement response for your silicone groove Duncan yo-yos like the new Raptor and Duncan's future aluminum yo-yo releases.The 19mm pads are also compatible with any yo-yos that use the CBC Slim Pad Size 19mm OD.Not sure if it will fit? Feel... ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/3 "2016-01-08T16:49:29Z")
> [@yooldman](#): > > I use Duncan 12mm silicone stickers.  They can be used new. > > [Duncan Response – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/74/Duncan-Friction-Stickers) Thanks man! I was looking though the MegaThreadofAwesomeness and you had some pretty good vids by the way. Nice stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/4 "2016-01-08T17:00:58Z")
> [@yooldman](#): > > I use Duncan 12mm silicone stickers.  They can be used new. > > [Duncan Response – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/74/Duncan-Friction-Stickers) Oh I forgot to ask, do you use those just on No Jives, or TMBRs also? ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/5 "2016-01-10T02:44:00Z")
I use them on TMBRs, too. ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/6 "2016-01-25T15:12:06Z")
> [@yooldman](#): > > I use them on TMBRs, too. When you put the friction sticker on the TMBR, do you add the o-ring to make the gap bigger too, or just slap a sticker on there and go for it? ---
**Author:** ![yooldman](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yooldman/32/1213_2.png) [@yooldman](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yooldman)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/7 "2016-01-27T00:01:18Z")
I usually don’t shim my TMBRs and just use the stickers to make the response a little more snappy. ---
**Author:** ![Yo\_2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo_2/32/219839_2.png) [@Yo\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo_2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/8 "2016-01-30T17:49:53Z")
So I’m a bit curious…has anyone ever “drilled” dimples into a No Jive to make it more responsive? I suspect the factory does not do it because, for one reason, a “3 in 1” would become a “1 in 1”. But I know TMBR dimples their yoyos and the Hildy Brothers Emmitt is even dimpled. I’m just wondering if someone has ever tried it and what was the result. ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/9 "2016-01-31T15:01:02Z")
> [@Yo\_2](#): > > So I’m a bit curious…has anyone ever “drilled” dimples into a No Jive to make it more responsive? I suspect the factory does not do it because, for one reason, a “3 in 1” would become a “1 in 1”. But I know TMBR dimples their yoyos and the Hildy Brothers Emmitt is even dimpled. I’m just wondering if someone has ever tried it and what was the result. Out does that too. I havn’t been throwing long but I can’t tell how much it helps. ---
**Author:** ![Yo\_2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yo_2/32/219839_2.png) [@Yo\_2](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yo_2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/10 "2016-02-01T02:41:03Z")
Ok, so I came up with an alternative to buying friction pads. I went to The drug store and bought a roll of cloth tape. Then I found a washer with a 3/4 outer diameter and a 5/16 inner diameter. After cleaning the washer well, I took some of the tape and stuck it to the washer. I used an Exacto knife to cut out the inside and outside along the washer edges. Then I peeled off the tape and stuck it in my No-Jive. It definitely makes the Yoyo more responsive. I have no idea how long these pads will last, or how they will behave over time, but it seems to be a super-cheap alternative to friction pads. Also, if I injure myself with a yoyo, I have tape for the bandage. Win-win. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/11 "2016-02-01T04:23:23Z")
Using tape as replacement pads was quite common at one time. How long it lasts is somewhat dependent on the tape. It was an alternative to duncan friction stickers when they were pretty much the only game in town. TK sells a similar product. Basically a cloth tape with a light adhesive. They are marketed primarily for the TK bearing yoyos but work in all of them. [Turbo Discs](http://www.tomkuhn.com/shop/turbo-discs/) Frankly I’ve never felt a need for them in a fixed axle. ---
**Author:** ![Morgoroth](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/morgoroth/32/795_2.png) [@Morgoroth](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Morgoroth)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/12 "2016-02-01T12:37:36Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > Using tape as replacement pads was quite common at one time. How long it lasts is somewhat dependent on the tape. It was an alternative to duncan friction stickers when they were pretty much the only game in town. TK sells a similar product. Basically a cloth tape with a light adhesive. They are marketed primarily for the TK bearing yoyos but work in all of them. > > [Turbo Discs](http://www.tomkuhn.com/shop/turbo-discs/) > > Frankly I’ve never felt a need for them in a fixed axle. Typically, I would agree, because I would just tighten the string to get the response I wanted. But, I like a snappy response and that can be hard with neutral string tension, which is a must if you are practicing kickflips. Not that it makes a huge difference since my success rate on kickflips is pretty low. ---
**Author:** ![baconNeggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@baconNeggs](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/baconNeggs)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dead-friction-sticker/78755/13 "2016-02-15T05:32:32Z")
Just drill four dimples on each side much like Tmbr’s response setup. Perfection after that, I do all mine this way and they play perfect!