# Dating a Duncan Imperial

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**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [August 25, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261 "2024-08-25T16:29:33Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/1 "2024-08-25T16:29:33Z")

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Not like this…

 ![notthis](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/c/a/dca1f001adfebdf494d0c2b7ba139318939acbd2.jpeg)

…rather, is there any way to identify the production date of this Duncan Imperial for my personal records?

 ![IMG_1899](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/2/9/6/296c778423b6fb0791c5ab7651c63026a0168469.jpeg)

I don’t believe the yo-yo to be incredibly old. If I had to guess I’d say mid-nineties. The internet has failed me. Any date range would be appreciated!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/2 "2024-08-25T17:01:15Z")

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No idea they are still in production so hard to say.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/3 "2024-08-25T17:31:08Z")

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Let’s go back to the first picture, I have some questions

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/4 "2024-08-25T17:33:33Z")

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Real answer there should be a batch/date code on the YoYo somewhere

 ![IMG_8400](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/7/7/9/779f683c6b6e4182e78cd1f41e7fbaad909cdd45.jpeg)

That should help identify when it was made.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/5 "2024-08-25T17:44:39Z")

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Firstly, you’re awesome! Thank you so much.

I kept seeing these date codes as I was researching. This one just doesn’t appear to have, or even had a date code.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/6 "2024-08-25T17:54:06Z")

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Sadly not sure we can date it easily. It’s probably 1990s to early 2000s just as a guess cause it doesn’t look like the 1960s to 80s plastic.

I could be off base but that’s my guess

Duncan is very consistent and these haven’t changed much in the last 50 years lol

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/7 "2024-08-25T17:58:49Z")

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Hah, they truly haven’t changed much. But I guess it ain’t broke.

I think you nailed it. That is my guess as well. A definitive answer was always a long shot.

Maybe I can ask more about its background, if we have a second date… :wink:

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/8 "2024-08-25T18:03:54Z")

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This is probably the best we will get in answers unless we can ask someone at Duncan that’s been there for a long time or a big time Duncan collector.

> **[Duncan Imperial](https://yoyo.fandom.com/wiki/Duncan_Imperial)**
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> The Imperial is one of Duncan's two most iconic and best-selling yo-yos, alongside the Butterfly. It was first released in 1954, and has been a true classic since its introduction back then, and it is still in production to this day. The Imperial is...

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/9 "2024-08-25T18:07:42Z")

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brand new one for cross reference

 ![1000000583](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/c/e/8/ce8b5de48e35dd3cad6ad9ab6dfbc2b3393b557a.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/10 "2024-08-25T18:15:15Z")

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That’s where I pulled my spreadsheet information! I may hobby way too hard…

 ![Screenshot 2024-08-25 at 1.13.38 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/5/5/d/55d4cd496d684cd6de0490db717da6cf6ed97c9c.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/11 "2024-08-25T18:17:43Z")

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These subtle differences lead me to believe we may pinpoint this afterall!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/12 "2024-08-25T18:24:28Z")

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the printing on the new one looks like a thinner font and the gold looks a slightly different shade although that could be age. obviously the major difference being the date code

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/13 "2024-08-25T18:48:37Z")

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You are quite correct. There are so many little differences.

 ![different-duncans](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/e/6/f/e6fe9b81a5dadc347bf6dfe1baf294ed7f4f16f9.jpeg)

Batman would be proud…or worried.

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/14 "2024-08-25T18:56:30Z")

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Incredibly old - 90’s :skull:  
Haha. How many of us have imperials that we bought in the 80’s making us beyond incredibly old :joy:

Ps. I realize op said “not incredibly old” but reading that made me chuckle

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_ **Not** _ incredibly old, yes. Otherwise I’m probably ancient. 🤣

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/16 "2024-08-25T19:22:34Z")

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I have 50s era Duncan’s on a shelf I would be concerned if we are calling 90s super old now.

Admittedly I wasn’t the original owner of the super old yo-yos I own I wasn’t Ali r yet lol

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I’m pretty sure you’re into the 2000s with that Imperial. It looks like Flambeau (Duncan) switched from “_Made in USA_” to “_USA Made • World’s #1_” in ‘97.

Then, best I can tell is that they shifted mfg of these mass plastics to China in the early 2000s. That’s when they changed the stamp to “The Original • World’s #1”. From there on, I can’t say.

 ![IMG_4101](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/3/5/3/3537420672d5bedb40092a72847710ae7fe46982.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/18 "2024-08-25T20:08:22Z")

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Fantastic. Thank you kindly!

We’re chipping away at this mystery!

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**Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/19 "2024-08-25T20:19:05Z")

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Ahh neat my vague guess was mostly right.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dating-a-duncan-imperial/408261/20 "2024-08-27T21:33:44Z")

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What book is that from?

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