# dark magic x con or hitman **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [May 10, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290 "2009-05-10T20:59:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![soccer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/soccer/32/143_2.png) [@soccer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/soccer)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/1 "2009-05-10T20:59:01Z")
i need help picking out a yoyo ---
**Author:** ![yoyoproyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyoproyo/32/88_2.png) [@yoyoproyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoproyo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/2 "2009-05-10T21:02:15Z")
to pick a yoyo we need to know your prefences like: 1 . What size do you prefer? (Big, small, medium, etc) 2. What shape do you prefer? (Be specific: Round Butterfly, Flat Rims, pointy shape, H-Shape) 3. What response do you prefer? (hybrid or dobble o ring) 5. Does color matter? 6. How does your style relate to the yoyo? (What kind of tricks do you like to do?) ---
**Author:** ![Spencer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Spencer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/3 "2009-05-11T13:17:28Z")
Get a X-ConVict. If you meant X-ConVict and typed X-Con for short, they are 2 different yoyos. The X-Con is prone to cracking. The X-ConVict is better and about $20 more and won’t crack. It spins longer too. ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/4 "2009-05-11T14:25:03Z")
> [@Spencer](#): > > Get a X-ConVict. If you meant X-ConVict and typed X-Con for short, they are 2 different yoyos. The X-Con is prone to cracking. The X-ConVict is better and about $20 more and won’t crack. It spins longer too. Well you can’t really buy an x-con anywhere now ;D Unless you get it off the BST’s. If you like big yoyos, get a dark magic. Like smaller yoyos, get a hitman/xconvict. Hitman and xconvict are abt the same size, dark magic is slightly bigger. Here are the comparisons. Left to right: Xconvict, Dark Magic, Hitman [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpg) Just look at the shapes and you will decide which one you want. I know you’re gonna ask which one spins longer, but they all spin around the same time. Just pick the one that you think suits you best. ---
**Author:** ![Spencer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Spencer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/5 "2009-05-11T14:30:15Z")
A2Z in Northampton, MA ---
**Author:** ![lostprophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lostprophet](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lostprophet)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/6 "2009-05-11T14:33:18Z")
personally, iv got a X-convict and its awesome. it really is a great yoyo. i would recommend to anyone!!! ---
**Author:** ![RyanUNDEAD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@RyanUNDEAD](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RyanUNDEAD)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/7 "2009-05-11T17:51:41Z")
I have an Xconvict and it seems like a great yoyo. I’m only a beginner so I can’t do advanced tricks but my Xconvict sleeps for a long time and feels good in my hand [I have quite big hands]. When I got it, it was responsive but now it’s broke in it’s unresponsive which gave me time to learn binding =]. Plus I prefer the shape of the Xconvict out of those three yoyos. ---
**Author:** ![Pheenix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pheenix/32/65_2.png) [@Pheenix](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pheenix)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/8 "2009-05-11T18:09:25Z")
These all have different sizes and shapes. And if you look at the nice comparison picture rsmod posted you can see the difference in shape. But don’t look at the size in that picture, the yoyos are scaled to the same size. In size, which may prove to be a big factor, the Hitman is definently the smallest of the three and has a rounded shape. The X-ConVict is b vit bigger than the Hitman and has a very special shape (wide, a bit sharp and really sexy). And then the Dark Magic is the bigger of the three and has a flat-rimmed shape. There are not many other differences than that. But the Dark Magic is hybrid, the X-ConVict is double O-ring and the Hitman gives you a chice between both. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/9 "2009-05-11T21:56:51Z")
> [@Pheenix](#): > > These all have different sizes and shapes. And if you look at the nice comparison picture rsmod posted you can see the difference in shape. But don’t look at the size in that picture, the yoyos are scaled to the same size. In size, which may prove to be a big factor, the Hitman is definently the smallest of the three and has a rounded shape. The X-ConVict is b vit bigger than the Hitman and has a very special shape (wide, a bit sharp and really sexy). And then the Dark Magic is the bigger of the three and has a flat-rimmed shape. There are not many other differences than that. But the Dark Magic is hybrid, the X-ConVict is double O-ring and the Hitman gives you a chice between both. You were incorrect about one thing Pheenix - The X-Convict is the smallest :wink: ---
**Author:** ![lostprophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lostprophet](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lostprophet)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/10 "2009-05-11T22:01:27Z")
i would go with wot your gut or instinct tells you to get as long as its the x-convict :wink: ---
**Author:** ![Spencer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Spencer](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/11 "2009-05-11T22:08:33Z")
Yeah. Samads right. Its smaller by 1mm on the width. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/12 "2009-05-11T22:11:22Z")
> [@Spencer](#): > > Yeah. Samads right. Its smaller by 1mm on the width. Yeah. Plus it just feels a lot smaller to me in general ;D ---
**Author:** ![nowhere\_kid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nowhere_kid/32/142_2.png) [@nowhere\_kid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nowhere_kid)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-x-con-or-hitman/2290/13 "2009-05-11T23:01:51Z")
mini motu 🙂