# Dark Magic vs. X-con vs. Hitman **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\ **Created:** [June 2, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867 "2009-06-02T23:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/1 "2009-06-02T23:45:19Z")
Which do you guys think is the best? i can get any of em. ---
**Author:** ![Batryn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/batryn/32/78_2.png) [@Batryn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Batryn)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/2 "2009-06-02T23:47:37Z")
Preference. It’s all about the shape/weight of these yoyos. And response. Which shape looks better to you? ---
**Author:** ![RCyo21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df788c/32.png) [@RCyo21](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/RCyo21)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/3 "2009-06-02T23:50:31Z")
I have tried the X-Con and DM and I like the DM more. I lubed it and got a new bearing so it spins for 3 minutes. I sold it so I can get a Skyline though. The DM is really easy to learn on and fun to use overall. You could get either of the three and be happy. They are great for intermediate through advanced part 2. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/4 "2009-06-02T23:51:54Z")
My Hitman has been getting a lot of love lately, but if I really had to choose one, it would be the DM But its all about personal preference: 1. What size do you prefer? (Big, small, medium, etc) 2. What shape do you prefer? (Be specific: Round Butterfly, Flat Rims, pointy shape, H-Shape) 3. What response do you prefer? (Silicone, O-Ring, Hybrid, Pad, etc) 4. Do you like to mod/maintain it? 5. Does color matter? 6. How does your style relate to the yoyo? (What kind of tricks do you like to do?) 7. What is your price range? 8. What is your skill level? :wink: ---
**Author:** ![mikey77](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mikey77/32/48_2.png) [@mikey77](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mikey77)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/5 "2009-06-02T23:56:05Z")
DM because it is light but not too light, metal rimed, sleeps long, good for any 1a trick, amazing for combos and really nice for thumb grinds. that’s what i think ---
**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/6 "2009-06-02T23:56:32Z")
Hahaha. I really need to save those questions as a word document. 😛 I personally like the Dark Magic and X-conVict. It’s a split decision for me. Probably Dark Magic though. ---
**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/7 "2009-06-03T00:08:18Z")
> [@mikey77](#): > > DM because it is light but not too light, I wonder what yoyos you are using… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/8 "2009-06-03T00:15:46Z")
Hitman. :wink: And I would go with the hybrid, not O-Ring. Its a little less responsive. ---
**Author:** ![Gizzyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gizzyo/32/191_2.png) [@Gizzyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gizzyo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/9 "2009-06-03T01:08:52Z")
i have tried all three of them: my favorite was the hitman because of it shape and play. The X-convict was real good but it wasn’t good in shape (my opinion). Same With the Dark magic great play but it was a little big. Thats just me Gizzy ---
**Author:** ![Xdohl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xdohl/32/12_2.png) [@Xdohl](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Xdohl)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/10 "2009-06-03T02:10:38Z")
I’ve used all three, and although I love me some big, meaty yoyos, I think the Hitman was the best all-around player. Very nice yoyo there. Then again, my DM is very messed up. ---
**Author:** ![EvanB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/11 "2009-06-03T02:14:35Z")
Hitman. |||| Exactly what I have vvvv > [@Xdohl](#): > > I’ve used all three, and although I love me some small tiny, midget yo-yos, I think the Hitman was the best all-around player. Very nice yoyo there. > > Then again, my DM is very messed up. They should make a Hitgirl… But your can’t hit a girl… \>:( \>:( ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/12 "2009-06-03T03:33:48Z")
> [@Evan](#): > > Hitman. > |||| > Exactly what I have vvvv > > > [@Xdohl](#): > > > > I’ve used all three, and although I love me some small tiny, midget yo-yos, I think the Hitman was the best all-around player. Very nice yoyo there. > > > > Then again, my DM is very messed up. > > They should make a Hitgirl… But your can’t hit a girl… \>:( \>:( Well you could call the Lyn a hitgirl ??? ---
**Author:** ![3rikTheRed](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/3rikthered/32/167_2.png) [@3rikTheRed](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/3rikTheRed)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/13 "2009-06-05T03:50:18Z")
DARK MAGIC ALL THE WAY! ---
**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/14 "2009-06-05T04:40:48Z")
So here are the comparison pictures. See which shape you think suits you best. From left to right: Hitman, X-Convict, Dark Magic, and i even threw in a Black Knight because i think it fits in :wink: Not to scale though, dont use this for size comparison. [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/black-knight/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpghttp://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/black-knight/view/images/02.jpg) [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/hitman/view/images/02.jpg) [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/x-convict/view/images/02.jpg) [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/dark-magic/view/images/02.jpg) [http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/black-knight/view/images/02.jpg](http://yoyoexpert.com/product/yoyojam/black-knight/view/images/02.jpg) Personally, i like the hitman most. ---
**Author:** ![lostprophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lostprophet](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/lostprophet)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/15 "2009-06-06T12:09:43Z")
X-convict all the way. its awesome!!! ;D ---
**Author:** ![daPhantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/daphantom/32/196_2.png) [@daPhantom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/daPhantom)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/16 "2009-06-06T19:30:30Z")
ahh…such a common question. i cant say, ive had a dm, im getting a x-con soon, and have tried a hitman (not the greatest condition), and i have to say, the dm rox, i like the x-cons shape the most, and dont have mutch to say on the hitman. ps. its funny that here (the website that promotes the dm) everyone(almost) likes the dm, but on ynn or theyo, people give it a bad rep GO DARKMAGIC! ---
**Author:** ![EvanB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/90ced4/32.png) [@EvanB](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EvanB)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/17 "2009-06-06T19:33:02Z")
> [@AFROYO](#): > > ahh…such a common question. i cant say, ive had a dm, im getting a x-con soon, and have tried a hitman (not the greatest condition), and i have to say, the dm rox, i like the x-cons shape the most, and dont have mutch to say on the hitman. > > ps. its funny that here (the website that promotes the dm) everyone(almost) likes the dm, but on ynn or theyo, people give it a bad rep > > GO DARKMAGIC! No offence to Andre and everyone else. Since Andre Boulay created this site, he is creator of Dark Magic so he likes it, and it is on the site here so more people get it and like it. NOTE: It is still an awesome yo-yo. ---
**Author:** ![daPhantom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/daphantom/32/196_2.png) [@daPhantom](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/daPhantom)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/18 "2009-06-06T22:20:10Z")
yes it is ---
**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/19 "2009-06-06T22:49:24Z")
The X-ConVict is very good. Nearly as good as the Hitman. I don’t like how big the rims are. Its like a huge chunk of metal there and barely any plastic. They do provide long spin times though. ---
**Author:** ![Domin123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/57b2e6/32.png) [@Domin123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Domin123)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867/20 "2009-06-10T06:46:58Z")
> [@Spencetr L.](#): > > Hitman. :wink: And I would go with the hybrid, not O-Ring. Its a little less responsive. You can try changing the rubber o-rings to silicone o-rings. It would make it less responsive after breaking it. For the hybrid version, you may slip some binds and the string wears out more easily if the it keeps rubbing against the starbursts. [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-x-con-vs-hitman/2867.md?page=2)