# dark magic vs speeder

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [September 3, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166 "2009-09-03T07:53:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Rookie\_yo-player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f17d59/32.png) [@Rookie\_yo-player](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rookie_yo-player)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166/1 "2009-09-03T07:53:28Z")

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which one can spin longer and better to use~??

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**Author:** ![helioNXG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@helioNXG](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/helioNXG)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166/2 "2009-09-03T09:00:26Z")

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ok, the dark magic spins much longer and stabler than the speeder if you do 1a. but i would recormend the speeder for 3a ;D

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**Author:** ![Mage1342](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mage1342/32/75_2.png) [@Mage1342](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mage1342)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166/3 "2009-09-03T12:54:25Z")

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I would say that it depends on your throw but I can see that’s not what you are looking for. The Dark Magic is much stabler and has good rim weight but the Speeder has a narrower rim distribution allowing for longer times.

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**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166/4 "2009-09-03T16:03:35Z")

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Really, any increased rim weight between these two wouldn’t be noticable and therefore won’t matter.

Also, please either delete this or your other thread. You don’t need two for the same or similar questions.

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**Author:** ![Rookie\_yo-player](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f17d59/32.png) [@Rookie\_yo-player](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Rookie_yo-player)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-speeder/6166/5 "2009-09-04T10:46:51Z")

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thank you everyone~^^