# Dark Magic vs. Grind Machine

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931>\
**Category:** Yo-Yo Reviews\
**Created:** [June 5, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931 "2009-06-05T13:49:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![eal87ha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9d8465/32.png) [@eal87ha](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eal87ha)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931/1 "2009-06-05T13:49:22Z")

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LOOK UP THERE AND VOTE!!!

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Hi PEEPS! I just wanted to know what you guys (and girls) think is better!!! I like the hubstacks on the GM, the DM is my fav though, and I like it metal rims…

what do you think???

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931/2 "2009-06-05T14:04:46Z")

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I like grind machine. I don’t really like its hubstacks, but i like its customizable weight. I also like its smoothness, its a lot more smooth than the dm. It’s response is also, in my opinion, better. it has really tight binds, but a really wide gap, while the DM Snags alot for me, and i don’t like its small gap. I also like the smooth sound that the Grind machine makes, but i dont like the ZZZZZZ sound the Dark Magic makes.

So i like the grind machine better 8)

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**Author:** ![Samad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/samad/32/19_2.png) [@Samad](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Samad)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931/3 "2009-06-05T22:21:17Z")

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> [@rsmod123](#):
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> I like grind machine. I don’t really like its hubstacks, but i like its customizable weight. I also like its smoothness, its a lot more smooth than the dm. It’s response is also, in my opinion, better. it has really tight binds, but a really wide gap, while the DM Snags alot for me, and i don’t like its small gap. I also like the smooth sound that the Grind machine makes, but i dont like the ZZZZZZ sound the Dark Magic makes.
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> So i like the grind machine better 8)

He pretty much hit everything there.

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**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931/4 "2009-06-05T22:24:50Z")

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Grind Machine all the way!

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**Author:** ![rsmod123](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/rsmod123/32/46_2.png) [@rsmod123](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/rsmod123)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-vs-grind-machine/2931/5 "2009-06-06T01:22:09Z")

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But despite all this, I still want a YYE special edition DM lol ;D Thanks for the Thank Samad!