# dark magic unresponsive?? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [April 4, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016 "2010-04-04T21:57:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WesternCanuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc29f/32.png) [@WesternCanuk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WesternCanuk)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/1 "2010-04-04T21:57:59Z")
hey all working my way through the lessons i notice some of them Audre throws his DM and its super unresponsive other time with a slight pop it comes back right away. How do i make mine less responsive. Thanks all. ---
**Author:** ![ZapTam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@ZapTam](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ZapTam)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/2 "2010-04-04T22:00:50Z")
if you dont twist the two sides super tight it is a little more unresponsive. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/3 "2010-04-04T22:03:02Z")
clean the bearing silicone it Or clean the bearing shave down the existing O-ring Or Use the adjustable gap. ---
**Author:** ![JUMP](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jump/32/274_2.png) [@JUMP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JUMP)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/4 "2010-04-04T22:17:55Z")
> [@Born2YoYo](#): > > clean the bearing > silicone it > Or > clean the bearing > shave down the existing O-ring > Or > Use the adjustable gap. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/5 "2010-04-04T22:37:25Z")
> [@Jump](#): > > > [@Born2YoYo](#): > > > > clean the bearing > > silicone it > > Or > > clean the bearing > > shave down the existing O-ring > > Or > > Use the adjustable gap. > > Agreed. Or break it in. ---
**Author:** ![ApocalypticYo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@ApocalypticYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ApocalypticYo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2010, 10:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/6 "2010-04-04T22:59:28Z")
Silicone it Add shims Clean the Bearing Loosen the gap, not too much though. Make sure that the string won’t be able to slip onto the axle. Shave the O-ring Use a KK bearing The way i play with mine is two red shims and a K-Pad, it would prolly be better to use the YYJ silicone but i had K-Pads for my Dv888 and they fit nicely. When you say that his DM is responsive, i think that would only be in the beginning and intermediate sections. He said that he played his yoyo stock for those sections and used thick lube. ---
**Author:** ![WesternCanuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc29f/32.png) [@WesternCanuk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/WesternCanuk)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/7 "2010-04-05T00:59:02Z")
all great info thanks guys… that helped i need to send away for some shims. ---
**Author:** ![Amdroid](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/amdroid/32/476_2.png) [@Amdroid](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Amdroid)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/8 "2010-04-05T01:09:32Z")
How do shims go on? They way I am imagining it, it seems like it would slow the bearing. I am planning on ordering some shims in my next order, but I don’t get how they work. ---
**Author:** ![ApocalypticYo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@ApocalypticYo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ApocalypticYo)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/9 "2010-04-05T01:20:22Z")
> [@Amdroid](#): > > How do shims go on? They way I am imagining it, it seems like it would slow the bearing. > I am planning on ordering some shims in my next order, but I don’t get how they work. Shims go on the bearing seat and because they are there, they widen the gap because the yoyo can’t screw together as close. they do slow down the bearing a little but it shouldn’t make a huge deal. I have two gray(thin) shims on my Dv888(I don’t use them to widen the gap but rather to prevent the bearing from getting stuck in the bearing seat.) My Dv888 still has a really nice spin time. I got it go to 5 minutes. With practice it will be better. To keep the yoyo spinning longer when using shims, you should take the shields off of the bearing. This reduces friction and thus increases spin time. ---
**Author:** ![newbee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@newbee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/newbee)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/10 "2010-04-05T09:55:05Z")
Widen the gap. Put thin lube. KK’s aren’t necessary. But they’re good for keeping the string away from the response systems. Is your DM new, if it is then could w/ it until the bearing’s broken in. ---
**Author:** ![saintsfan02](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/saintsfan02/32/495_2.png) [@saintsfan02](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/saintsfan02)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/11 "2010-04-06T18:54:37Z")
buy a concave bearing ---
**Author:** ![newbee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@newbee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/newbee)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/12 "2010-04-07T09:07:46Z")
Not necessary though. But if you like to spend $15 then go for it. What I did was widen the gap and put an alchemy string on. You could try alchemy strings, I believe they have less friction than polys, at least for what I’ve expirienced. ---
**Author:** ![7ShadesOfGrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/b5a626/32.png) [@7ShadesOfGrey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/7ShadesOfGrey)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/13 "2010-04-07T21:50:34Z")
Born2Yoyo how do you shave the existing o-ring do you have a video? ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/14 "2010-04-07T23:29:26Z")
7ShadesOfGrey, [[this]](http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Mod-a-Bolt-Yo-Yo/step5/An-alternative-to-flowable-silicone/) is what you are looking for. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/15 "2010-04-07T23:46:32Z")
> [@7ShadesOfGrey](#): > > Born2Yoyo > how do you shave the existing o-ring do you have a video? You can just shave the oring down with an exacto knife, or anything sharp for that matter. Sandpaper will make it smooth. ---
**Author:** ![7ShadesOfGrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/b5a626/32.png) [@7ShadesOfGrey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/7ShadesOfGrey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/16 "2010-04-08T09:53:50Z")
ok thnx ---
**Author:** ![7ShadesOfGrey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/b5a626/32.png) [@7ShadesOfGrey](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/7ShadesOfGrey)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/17 "2010-04-08T11:32:03Z")
where can i buy a silicone? ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/18 "2010-04-08T11:39:13Z")
If you mean flowable silicone, you can pick it up at wall mart, or an auto store. It should look like this… [http://www.yoyonation.com/product\_image.php?imageid=438](http://www.yoyonation.com/product_image.php?imageid=438) It will have a cover, its a tube, and it should be in a package, not just the tube. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_rocks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@Johnny\_rocks](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Johnny_rocks)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-unresponsive/13016/19 "2010-04-08T22:19:24Z")
i wanted it to be as unresponsive as possible i would, Buy a KK, silicon it, by two thick shims and put them both in.