# Dark Magic throw power

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383>\
**Category:** General Yo-Yo\
**Created:** [July 18, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383 "2009-07-18T00:14:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Kim-Lan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kim-lan/32/16_2.png) [@Kim-Lan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kim-Lan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/21 "2009-07-19T20:50:58Z")

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It shouldn’t be loose when you are winding it up if you wrap around your finger in the beginning. Maybe you’re doing it wrong…?

Edit: Okay, after rereading what you said, I think I’ve found your problem. When wrapping around your finger, you need to wrap around your finger once and then wrap under your finger, normally, a few times. After that, you can take out your finger and continue winding up your yo-yo.

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**Author:** ![Torrent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/torrent/32/236_2.png) [@Torrent](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Torrent)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/22 "2009-07-19T21:42:12Z")

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> [@Kim-Lan](#):
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> Edit: Okay, after rereading what you said, I think I’ve found your problem. When wrapping around your finger, you need to wrap around your finger once and then wrap under your finger, normally, a few times. After that, you can take out your finger and continue winding up your yo-yo.

Ahh, I see what you mean! I don’t know if it was a typo or what, but if this is what you’re doing, that’s definitely your problem. I actually wind my yo almost all the way before taking my finger out, just to be safe. There’s really no reason to take it out early.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/23 "2009-07-19T21:43:40Z")

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Yeah, Kim-Lan is totally right.

There is no right/wrong way to do it - as long as you can wind it up, no worries. :wink:

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/24 "2009-07-19T22:14:07Z")

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> [@Kim-Lan](#):
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> It shouldn’t be loose when you are winding it up if you wrap around your finger in the beginning. Maybe you’re doing it wrong…?
> 
> Edit: Okay, after rereading what you said, I think I’ve found your problem. When wrapping around your finger, you need to wrap around your finger once and then wrap under your finger, normally, a few times. After that, you can take out your finger and continue winding up your yo-yo.

Yeah, I go under my finger. It still doesn’t work though, like I said, it’s just loose and the first few inches of string just kind of fall off because they don’t have a firm grip on the bearing.

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**Author:** ![Kim-Lan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kim-lan/32/16_2.png) [@Kim-Lan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kim-Lan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/25 "2009-07-19T22:19:26Z")

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Here, maybe a video will help. It still sounds like you’re doing it wrong, because it can’t be loose if you use your finger.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icA8u06mLHs)

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/26 "2009-07-19T22:22:12Z")

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> [@Kim-Lan](#):
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> Here, maybe a video will help. It still sounds like you’re doing it wrong, because it can’t be loose if you use your finger.
> 
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icA8u06mLHs](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icA8u06mLHs)

Hm, well, I believe I’m doing it right. Could there be any problem causing it?

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**Author:** ![Kim-Lan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kim-lan/32/16_2.png) [@Kim-Lan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kim-Lan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/27 "2009-07-19T22:27:39Z")

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None that I can think of.

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/28 "2009-07-19T22:28:31Z")

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What exactly makes a yoyo unresponsive?

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/29 "2009-07-19T22:35:50Z")

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Mainly the response, or the wide gap. Sometimes the bearing, too.

Usually an un-responsive Yo-Yo has a silicone pad, or a flow groove.

It can also have a wide gap, also.

Responses like hybrid, double o-ring, or starburst aren’t responsive, unless they have a really wide gap where the string doesn’t touch it.

It can also be the bearing. A KonKave bearing is usually un-responsive. Some responsive Yo-Yos with a tight gap, and a bearing like a KonKave can be un-responsive, because of the bearing.

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**Author:** ![Kim-Lan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/kim-lan/32/16_2.png) [@Kim-Lan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Kim-Lan)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/30 "2009-07-19T22:37:31Z")

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By the way, even if a yo-yo is unresponsive, it will also be able to wind up fine.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/31 "2009-07-19T22:38:17Z")

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Yep! Right on that! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/32 "2009-07-19T22:44:21Z")

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Darn it, I’m very frustrated with the yoyo. I bought it, waited a few days, got it, then had to buy Thick Lube because I wanted it responsive (The problem was still there and I thought Thick Lube would fix it), waited a week, got it, then I find out the yoyo is still acting strange with terrible sleep time. I guess the only thing to do is send it back for repairs?

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/33 "2009-07-19T22:46:37Z")

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You could wait a bit longer, see what happens.

Other than that - try it. :wink:

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/34 "2009-07-19T22:48:50Z")

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> [@Spencer\_L](#):
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> You could wait a bit longer, see what happens.
> 
> Other than that - try it. :wink:

Alright. A day ago they said through email that if I wanted to return it and have them look at it and send it back, I would need the package slip. I believe I threw it away already though, do you guys think that that would prevent me from sending it in now? I mean, I don’t see what a packaging sleep would have to be present because this was bought online, so they should have the data on this and proof of purchase.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/35 "2009-07-19T22:51:16Z")

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I don’t know. Try and contact Andre with your information, so he’d know you’re sending it to wherever.

I forgot where you’re sending it to. YoYoJam factory?

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**Author:** ![Reflex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/reflex/32/235_2.png) [@Reflex](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Reflex)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/36 "2009-07-19T22:53:10Z")

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> [@Spencer\_L](#):
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> I don’t know. Try and contact Andre with your information, so he’d know you’re sending it to wherever.
> 
> I forgot where you’re sending it to. YoYoJam factory?

I don’t know, let me PM you them.

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**Author:** ![Spencer\_L](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/spencer_l/32/180_2.png) [@Spencer\_L](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Spencer_L)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-throw-power/4383/37 "2009-07-19T22:56:53Z")

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😛

I’ll PM you in a sec.

Yeah. It’s right.

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