# dark magic mod **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [September 19, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697 "2009-09-19T21:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![buzzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buzzz/32/308_2.png) [@buzzz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buzzz)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/1 "2009-09-19T21:59:18Z")
Hey has anybody tried adding homemade hubstacks on a dark magic ??? ---
**Author:** ![polloyoyo12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dec6dc/32.png) [@polloyoyo12](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/polloyoyo12)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/2 "2009-09-19T22:05:32Z")
evan put hubstacks on his black knight but you have to cut the little hub part out ---
**Author:** ![Paolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Paolo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Paolo)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/3 "2009-09-19T22:09:36Z")
Get synergy caps Much less risky, much easier. ---
**Author:** ![DaShiznit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/dashiznit/32/62_2.png) [@DaShiznit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DaShiznit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/4 "2009-09-22T00:43:46Z")
> [@Paolo](#): > > Get synergy caps > > Much less risky, much easier. ---
**Author:** ![wiibit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wiibit/32/194_2.png) [@wiibit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wiibit)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/5 "2009-09-22T23:49:38Z")
i would go for synerhy caps to but if u wanna try homemade i could give u a few ideas ---
**Author:** ![buzzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buzzz/32/308_2.png) [@buzzz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buzzz)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/6 "2009-09-24T03:28:20Z")
Yeah i want to try home made just to give it that custom touch. ---
**Author:** ![wiibit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wiibit/32/194_2.png) [@wiibit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wiibit)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/7 "2009-09-24T23:53:28Z")
this just popped in my head so i dont know if itll work ok get 2 mosquitoes or 2 cheap ball bearing yoyos take one spacer for each bearing glue the spacer to the place u want it to be the take a small drop of glue and stick in the middle of the bearing where the spacer touches and put on one of those rubber stubs on the end ps i have no idea if itll work but i can give a try i u want me to i rather try it myself first ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/8 "2009-09-25T00:11:23Z")
> [@wiibit](#): > > this just popped in my head so i dont know if itll work > ok get 2 mosquitoes or 2 cheap ball bearing yoyos take one spacer for each bearing glue the spacer to > the place u want it to be the take a small drop of glue and stick in the middle of the bearing where the spacer touches and put on one of those rubber stubs on the end > > ps i have no idea if itll work but i can give a try i u want me to i rather try it myself first The idea is good but it would be almost impossible to do, especially without having a lathe and a computer to get it centered just right, at which point doing that wouldn’t be effective. ---
**Author:** ![wiibit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wiibit/32/194_2.png) [@wiibit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wiibit)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/9 "2009-09-25T01:10:22Z")
good point but im gonna try it ---
**Author:** ![Smoke770077](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85f322/32.png) [@Smoke770077](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Smoke770077)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/10 "2009-09-25T01:12:37Z")
The most common mod method would probably be to chop the hubs, gut a PGM and use the PGM guts in the DM… I wouldn’t do it… Just get the PGM or Synergy caps ---
**Author:** ![buzzz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buzzz/32/308_2.png) [@buzzz](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/buzzz)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/11 "2009-09-26T04:40:40Z")
I think i’ll just get synergy caps 8 ;D ---
**Author:** ![wiibit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/wiibit/32/194_2.png) [@wiibit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/wiibit)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/12 "2009-09-26T19:29:14Z")
good idea my idea is a no go ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@Leo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/13 "2010-03-18T01:02:37Z")
okay, ima do this soo but is good plan. Cut down the whole nub with a drmel or rotary blade. Then poke a hole through both sides exposing the bolts. get another yoyojam axle and soter it to the dm one. From there, screw em one and some parts shud be exposed. Find stack posts from a FHZ kit and boom done ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/14 "2010-03-18T02:35:11Z")
“Soldering” an axle wouldn’t be a good idea. Among other things, you wouldn’t be able to get it straight. If you really knew what you were doing, you would know how to cut the head off of a bolt for a longer axle… ---
**Author:** ![Yummy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yummy/32/14065_2.png) [@Yummy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yummy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/15 "2010-03-18T15:41:25Z")
Soldering will not give a strong connection. Soldering is designed to hold wires onto circuit boards and similar applications. Two axles soldered together will snap very easily. You could just buy a longer setscrew but that still won’t be the end of your problems. The FHZ hubstack nuts are tapped for the M4 axle used in Duncan and YYF yo-yos. YoYoJam uses a 6x32 axle. The nuts won’t thread on correctly. Also, let’s be honest. Do you really want to have to remove the hubstack nuts before you unscrew the yo-yo and then put them back on after you screw the yo-yo back together? You are way better off just buying set of synergy caps or a PGM if you want to play with stacks. ---
**Author:** ![king825](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/king825/32/347_2.png) [@king825](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/king825)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/16 "2010-03-18T17:47:58Z")
Why would you possibly handicap your yoyo for an idea that just possibly (probably not) will work? Just get the parts. It’s less expensive than buying a new dm. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojamben](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyojamben/32/289780_2.png) [@yoyojamben](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojamben)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/17 "2010-03-18T19:13:15Z")
The only thing I can think of is shaping the hub so A bearings fit on it. THen just stick hubstacks on. Or you could do the smart thing by buying synergy caps… ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@Leo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-mod/6697/18 "2010-03-18T23:10:07Z")
very true, but mine has lasted for awhile, risky. i just glue everything together. I know its bad for my yoyo but its an old one anyways