# Dark magic Konkave and center track **URL:** \ **Category:** Yo-Yo Mods and Maintenance\ **Created:** [January 10, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134 "2010-01-10T00:07:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![yoyofan11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofan11/32/426_2.png) [@yoyofan11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan11)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/1 "2010-01-10T00:07:52Z")
I have a dark magic with stock bearing and was wondering which would be a better improvement? KonKave stainless steel, or center track bearing? Also is the ceramic KonKave worth the double price. ---
**Author:** ![Zer0F3AR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zer0f3ar/32/348572_2.png) [@Zer0F3AR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zer0F3AR)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/2 "2010-01-10T01:03:44Z")
youd get better by playing with a flat stock. id suggest getting a tenball bearing. its flat and is longer spinning quiet and smooth. while the kk is an animal (not the good way) and screams at you. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/3 "2010-01-10T01:23:18Z")
They aren’t upgrades, just different bearings. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofan11/32/426_2.png) [@yoyofan11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan11)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/4 "2010-01-10T01:40:15Z")
where do i buy a 10 ball bearing? ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/5 "2010-01-10T02:02:04Z")
Whats wrong with the bearing that’s in it? I’ve got a stock YYJ bearing in one of my bully’s and it spins forever. ---
**Author:** ![newbee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@newbee](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/newbee)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/6 "2010-01-10T03:31:42Z")
> [@10 10010 1001 1 1110](#): > > They aren’t upgrades, just different bearings. yup they are stock bearings in other yoyos ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofan11/32/426_2.png) [@yoyofan11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan11)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/7 "2010-01-10T16:00:25Z")
it spins for like 20 sec with a strong sleeper ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/8 "2010-01-10T16:05:02Z")
Work on your throw and it’ll sleep for MUCH longer. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofan11](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyofan11/32/426_2.png) [@yoyofan11](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofan11)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/9 "2010-01-10T16:45:38Z")
i timed it and it slept for 37 seconds. What am i doing wrong, it wasn’t touching the sides, it was as strong as i could throw it. ---
**Author:** ![DYonch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DYonch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DYonch)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/10 "2010-01-10T17:08:38Z")
Just keep yoyoing and your throw will get better in time. YoYo a lot in the next week or so, and then time your throw. I bet it will be better :wink: ---
**Author:** ![speedmaker1101](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/speedmaker1101/32/95_2.png) [@speedmaker1101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/speedmaker1101)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/11 "2010-01-10T17:22:14Z")
Dont clock spin times…they mean nothing. Stock YYJ bearings are fine, dont waste your money on a useless KK or CT. ---
**Author:** ![Apetrunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/apetrunk/32/148_2.png) [@Apetrunk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Apetrunk)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/12 "2010-01-11T00:11:29Z")
They aren’t useless since they give a different feel to the yoyo which some people like, but I do agree that they aren’t needed to make your throw better. ---
**Author:** ![JG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3e96dc/32.png) [@JG1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JG1)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/13 "2010-01-11T00:13:22Z")
> [@icthus](#): > > Whats wrong with the bearing that’s in it? I’ve got a stock YYJ bearing in one of my bully’s and it spins forever. why does everyone say forever? my bearings dont spin “forever” you would need magnesium and a magnetic force to make a bearing spin, “forever” ---
**Author:** ![Zer0F3AR](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zer0f3ar/32/348572_2.png) [@Zer0F3AR](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zer0F3AR)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/14 "2010-01-11T00:14:40Z")
> [@JG1](#): > > > [@icthus](#): > > > > Whats wrong with the bearing that’s in it? I’ve got a stock YYJ bearing in one of my bully’s and it spins forever. > > why does everyone say forever? my bearings dont spin “forever” you would need magnesium and a magnetic force to make a bearing spin, “forever” its a figure of speach to say it spins long. you know that. ---
**Author:** ![anonyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/15 "2010-01-11T01:07:52Z")
> [@JG1](#): > > > [@icthus](#): > > > > Whats wrong with the bearing that’s in it? I’ve got a stock YYJ bearing in one of my bully’s and it spins forever. > > why does everyone say forever? my bearings dont spin “forever” you would need magnesium and a magnetic force to make a bearing spin, “forever” Another useless post. Also you don’t need another bearing. Just play it and see if things get better. I bet you they will. ---
**Author:** ![Sorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sorry/32/424_2.png) [@Sorry](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Sorry)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/16 "2010-01-11T21:01:07Z")
> [@DYonch](#): > > Just keep yoyoing and your throw will get better in time. > > YoYo a lot in the next week or so, and then time your throw. I bet it will be better :wink: I agree with u man. When i started yoyoing i could only get up to about 30 secs. But now my DM can get up to 3 min with a good throw.(10-ball bearing) ---
**Author:** ![XminusmikeX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/xminusmikex/32/294_2.png) [@XminusmikeX](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/XminusmikeX)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-konkave-and-center-track/10134/17 "2010-01-11T21:38:35Z")
I hated my stock bearing in my Lyn when I first got it but now that it’s broken in, it plays like a dream! Work the bearing and you will find in time it will be nice and fast.