# Dark Magic in 2020? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [March 6, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320 "2020-03-06T02:23:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/1 "2020-03-06T02:23:54Z")
I heard Andre talking in The Yoyo Podcast about a Dark Magic prototype. Does anybody know more about this? I am looking forward to seeing a new Dark Magic this year! ---
**Author:** ![Throwto100](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/throwto100/32/87184_2.png) [@Throwto100](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Throwto100)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/2 "2020-03-06T04:38:43Z")
That would be awesome! I just ordered a DM2, I would love to see what new advances a new iteration would use. ---
**Author:** ![yoyojoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/e99b99/32.png) [@yoyojoe](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyojoe)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/3 "2020-03-06T05:18:05Z")
They could just make a diamond coated titanium version like kyo did to the Hitman. ---
**Author:** ![JustJ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/justj/32/81013_2.png) [@JustJ](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/JustJ)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/4 "2020-03-06T07:06:14Z")
Wow, I missed that. I hope you’re right, I love my DM2s. I finally scored an original DM with a caricature of the man himself, front and center in the table top display case. As with most YYJs, it’s a really fun throw, imho. Now if only I could score a ghost version! ---
**Author:** ![SimplyMike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SimplyMike](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SimplyMike)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/5 "2020-03-07T15:45:53Z")
I asked Andre. Another Dark Magic IS being developed but it’s a ways off. Can’t say at what stage it’s at, but it is being worked on. ---
**Author:** ![Keane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/keane/32/75597_2.png) [@Keane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Keane)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/6 "2020-03-08T16:24:54Z")
What company would remake it? Or is YYJ back? ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/7 "2020-03-08T18:16:37Z")
I think YYJ is now under new management/ownership? Their first act seems to have been to release NOS in new packaging. Not sure what to expect next. ---
**Author:** ![Legit\_yoyostrings](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/legit_yoyostrings/32/136873_2.png) [@Legit\_yoyostrings](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Legit_yoyostrings)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/8 "2020-03-08T20:47:47Z")
SF x ART would be awesome ---
**Author:** ![quinton](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/quinton/32/376_2.png) [@quinton](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/quinton)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/9 "2020-03-08T21:22:21Z")
I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility for Andre to just make the Dark Magic for sale at YYE. Either way i’m exciiiiited to see what comes from this ---
**Author:** ![yoyospirit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/yoyospirit/32/219875_2.png) [@yoyospirit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyospirit)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/10 "2020-03-08T22:10:31Z")
NOS? What’s that? And I think the most likely company to be apart of this revival is iYoYo, considering they’ve gotten the OK to do a throwback of the SpinMaster. I personally would love to see a delrin Dark Magic. @YoYoExpert any chance you’d be willing to tease us with some pics of the prototypes 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/mep/32/79842_2.png) [@Mep](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Mep)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/11 "2020-03-08T22:31:55Z")
NOS stands for New Old Stock. iYoYo is an interesting thought, they do stand out for making excellent hybrids as YYJ did too. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/12 "2020-03-08T22:53:17Z")
NOS??? If you look in the shop section at YYJ everything is sold out. Where do you see someone listing otherwise? ---
**Author:** ![Taskmaster99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/taskmaster99/32/278491_2.png) [@Taskmaster99](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Taskmaster99)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/13 "2020-03-09T00:10:58Z")
Ive seen a few sites(will not name on here) that seem to have some YYJ for sale. Your gonna have to look around. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/14 "2020-03-09T00:29:15Z")
My guess on that is that they still have stock from when YYJ was active. Up until a short time ago YYE had YYJ products. So yea it’s NOS but it’s what they’ve had on hand. No one is slipping them a stored cache from somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![jsn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jsn/32/104018_2.png) [@jsn](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jsn)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/15 "2020-03-09T00:54:49Z")
Where do i listen to this podcast? ---
**Author:** ![jeduardo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jeduardo/32/624173_2.png) [@jeduardo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jeduardo)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/16 "2020-03-09T01:15:28Z")
Search for ‘The Yoyo podcast’ in google. Try here also: https://open.spotify.com/embed/show/0M19LEklo8lHQBb2I0eFRv?utm_source=oembed I also found the post in YYE: > [@The Yoyo Podcast](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/the-yoyo-podcast/310136): > > Hey! I started a yoyo podcast! I am interviewing competitiors, trick innovators and industry insiders. There will be an episode every other week. The first episode is an interview with Connor Seals where talk about how he got into yoyoing, how he practices and look at his creative process for developing a routine. Follow the link to listen-\>[https://anchor.fm/the-yoyo-podcast/episodes/Connor-Seals--Episode-1-e8as2n](https://anchor.fm/the-yoyo-podcast/episodes/Connor-Seals--Episode-1-e8as2n) You can listen by following the link or looking up The Yoyo Podcast on Stitcher … ---
**Author:** ![zslane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zslane/32/19816_2.png) [@zslane](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zslane)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-in-2020/316320/17 "2020-03-09T17:12:36Z")
> [@jhb8426](#): > > NOS??? If you look in the shop section at YYJ everything is sold out. Where do you see someone listing otherwise? Yeah, I was thinking of Yomega. Sorry about the confusion there! My brain utterly failed me in that moment.