# Dark Magic 2 10th anniversary?
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [May 6, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455 "2015-05-06T00:13:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/1 "2015-05-06T00:13:39Z")
Is there any difference between the DM2 and the DM2 10th anniversary edition? If so, which one would you recommend?
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/2 "2015-05-06T00:15:19Z")
The rim plating adds a little weight but that’s it. It’s definitely not worth the extra $15.
Also have you considered the revival. It’s significantly better than the DM2 for modern play.
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/3 "2015-05-06T00:23:20Z")
> [@sparhawk](#):
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> The rim plating adds a little weight but that’s it. It’s definitely not worth the extra $15.
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> Also have you considered the revival. It’s significantly better than the DM2 for modern play.
I asked about the DM2 because it had both a responsive and unresponsive bearing. I’m still learning and I want a yoyo that can take me through the responsive tricks but that can switch to unresponsive once I get better
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### Author:  [@gijoey959](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gijoey959)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/4 "2015-05-06T00:34:20Z")
Just get a YYJ Classic. Once you master the easy stuff, you’ll thank yourself for saving the cash
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/5 "2015-05-06T00:40:54Z")
Go for the iyoyo2 then
> **[iYoYo](https://shop.yoyoexpert.com/collections/iyoyo)**
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> iYoYo is a small company founded by 5 time EYYC Champion and yo-yo store owner Dave Geigle. Since their start iYoYo has put together an impressive team, including EYYC Champion Carlos Braun, and has started to gain a significant following. And once...
Comes with a slim and wide bearing like the dm2 but is metal and offers a modern shape.
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/6 "2015-05-06T00:48:16Z")
Are there any other options other than the classic? I already have a yomega maverick, but it dosent seem to spin long enough to do split the atom, or any of the longer tricks even on my best throws(or maybe it loses spin too fast when it touches the string). I’m assuming that the classic has about the same spin time as the Maverick?
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/7 "2015-05-06T01:10:18Z")
The worlds edition surge is heavier and comes responsive
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### Author:  [@gijoey959](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/gijoey959)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/8 "2015-05-06T01:33:48Z")
Forgot about the Surge, that’s probably your best bet for money, no big deal if you smack the floor, loose it, etc… and can perform unresponsively
The iYoYo 2 will last you your lifetime if you want a full metal, and I didn’t know it came with a thin bearing, so that may be right up your alley as well. I’m a serious fan of H shapes, so this one really appeals to me
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/9 "2015-05-06T01:37:40Z")
what about the dv888 starter set that is on this site? [Starter Sets – YoYoExpert](http://shop.yoyoexpert.com/product/1290/YYF-DV888-Starter-Set)
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 6, 2015, 4:15am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/10 "2015-05-06T04:15:36Z")
dv888 is undersized and organic so it doesn’t stand up to the iyoyo. That said I’d say it’s better than the DM2
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 11:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/11 "2015-05-07T11:27:19Z")
what does the iyoyo feel like when its playing? and what is its response?
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### Author:  [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/12 "2015-05-07T14:40:21Z")
> [@Maverick](#):
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> what does the iyoyo feel like when its playing? and what is its response?
It runs silicone pads just like the dm2 and dv888. It’s pretty stable and not as hefty as the dm2 in my opinion. Should sleep plenty for you.
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### Author:  [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/13 "2015-05-07T14:46:11Z")
> [@Maverick](#):
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> Are there any other options other than the classic? I already have a yomega maverick, but it dosent seem to spin long enough to do split the atom, or any of the longer tricks even on my best throws(or maybe it loses spin too fast when it touches the string). I’m assuming that the classic has about the same spin time as the Maverick?
The Classic is a very different beast.
However-- the Maverick is plenty to pull off Split the Atom. Keep at it, you’ll get it! And when you can pull it off on the Maverick, you’ll know your skills are getting better. 🙂
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### Author:  [@EricBell](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/EricBell)
#### Post date: [May 7, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/14 "2015-05-07T15:16:09Z")
Yeah, I’ve never had a problem with spin times on my Maverick. I was just using it the other day actually, and I can hit like 30+ second long combos easily on it, with plenty of extra time
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/15 "2015-05-08T18:48:39Z")
> [@GregP](#):
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> The Classic is a very different beast.
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> However-- the Maverick is plenty to pull off Split the Atom. Keep at it, you’ll get it! And when you can pull it off on the Maverick, you’ll know your skills are getting better. 🙂
I can do it now, but for some reason my maverick still dosent spin longer than 20 seconds on my best throw
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### Author:  [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/16 "2015-05-08T20:13:10Z")
> [@Maverick](#):
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> I can do it now, but for some reason my maverick still dosent spin longer than 20 seconds on my best throw
Hmm. So even not doing a trick at all? Just watching it sleep? That’s a problem with that particular yoyo, not Mavericks in general. Bearing might be in need of maintenance.
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### Author:  [@Maverick](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Maverick)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/17 "2015-05-09T23:10:38Z")
> [@gijoey959](#):
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> Forgot about the Surge, that’s probably your best bet for money, no big deal if you smack the floor, loose it, etc… and can perform unresponsively
>
> The iYoYo 2 will last you your lifetime if you want a full metal, and I didn’t know it came with a thin bearing, so that may be right up your alley as well. I’m a serious fan of H shapes, so this one really appeals to me
what about the yomega/yoyojam firestorm? is it a good alternatuve to the clssic and the surge (im asking because it is sold near me
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### Author:  [@ThinkH2o](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/ThinkH2o)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/dark-magic-2-10th-anniversary/74455/18 "2015-05-11T21:32:15Z")
I started off using a yomega fireball, then went to the Duncan metal drifter. Which I disliked. Than I got the surge. Loved it till I just got the replay pro. And now I’m happy with the replay pro