# CZM8 Vs Horizon **URL:** \ **Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\ **Created:** [July 19, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853 "2015-07-19T02:22:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Icehockeyfreak3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df705f/32.png) [@Icehockeyfreak3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Icehockeyfreak3)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/1 "2015-07-19T02:22:21Z")
Comment what you think i like the horizon because you can use it for finger spins but i like the czm8 because it is so solid and spins a lot longer what do you think ---
**Author:** ![Buggot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buggot/32/1534_2.png) [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/2 "2015-07-19T02:26:13Z")
CZM8: Light, pretty stable, long spinning, v shape, all around decent yoyo Horizon: Geared toward stability, longer spinning, good for fingerspins, heavy, odd feeling in the hand for some (I’ve tried both) If you need more info go ahead and ask! 🙂 I have tried both and I like the CZM8. ---
**Author:** ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/3 "2015-07-19T03:01:29Z")
I have both and enjoy both. They’re 2 completely different experiences. CZM8 as said is quick and pretty stable. Horizon is large, much more relaxed oversized throw great for chill play. ---
**Author:** ![Icehockeyfreak3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df705f/32.png) [@Icehockeyfreak3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Icehockeyfreak3)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/4 "2015-07-19T15:49:21Z")
So what do you guys think i should get ---
**Author:** ![Icehockeyfreak3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/df705f/32.png) [@Icehockeyfreak3](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Icehockeyfreak3)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/5 "2015-07-19T15:49:38Z")
Im kinda leaning towards the czm8 ---
**Author:** ![Buggot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buggot/32/1534_2.png) [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/6 "2015-07-19T17:43:26Z")
I love the CZM8. I recommend that one 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@mysteriousyoyoer\_par](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/mysteriousyoyoer_par)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/7 "2015-07-19T18:21:21Z")
I would recommend a yoyofactory 2 hot or yoyofactory cyborg 2.0 or yoyofactory Czech point. ---
**Author:** ![Gomel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/gomel/32/697098_2.png) [@Gomel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Gomel)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/8 "2015-07-19T19:00:46Z")
> [@AngryGumball](#): > > I have both and enjoy both. They’re 2 completely different experiences. CZM8 as said is quick and pretty stable. Horizon is large, much more relaxed oversized throw great for chill play. Horizn can also be quite fast if you push it. By fast I mean Iori Yamaki fast. ---
**Author:** ![Buggot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/buggot/32/1534_2.png) [@Buggot](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Buggot)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/9 "2015-07-20T00:59:25Z")
> [@Gomel](#): > > Horizn can also be quite fast if you push it. By fast I mean Iori Yamaki fast. I;ve tried, it has way too momentum when fast in my opinion ---
**Author:** ![AngryGumball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/angrygumball/32/683872_2.png) [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-vs-horizon/75853/10 "2015-07-20T03:00:18Z")
I’ve tried fast as well, it didn’t like being pushed. I’m not a fast player by any means anyway. I do like to refer to my Horizon as a tank…or “Big Bertha” as it’s pretty large, carries its weight around, lots of momentum. When I want to just kick back and take things slow, I whip out the Horizon. CzPoint is another great one, it’s an improved version of the CZM8. I like both actually but you can see where the CzPoint picks up what the CZM8 drops. CZM8 has a deep IRG though, love it!