# Czm8 or Shutter

**URL:** <https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-or-shutter/64079>\
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation\
**Created:** [February 22, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-or-shutter/64079 "2014-02-22T20:20:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![SwitchedFlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SwitchedFlip](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SwitchedFlip)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-or-shutter/64079/1 "2014-02-22T20:20:34Z")

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They are the same price and i am considering both, what do you think?

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**Author:** ![Crossfire503](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c67d28/32.png) [@Crossfire503](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Crossfire503)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czm8-or-shutter/64079/2 "2014-02-22T21:45:29Z")

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I just got them both, thanks to the deal at PNWR, along with the free Proton. After playing both for about a half hour each, I’ll say that the czm8 feels lighter and easier to push fast than the Shutter, which lines up with the weight. I find the Shutter slightly harder to slip between strings, like in Cold Fusion or Skin the Chuck Testa, but it also feels a little bit more stable. It feels like it defaults to a slightly more relaxed throw style, but can be pushed to move very quickly without any real effort, just a decision to go fast or slow. As little of a weight difference as it appears, but the czm8 is easier to pop up for things like Kwyjibo, though both are plenty easy to catch back on the string. YMMV.