# Czech Point Vs Horizon
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [September 25, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088 "2015-09-25T02:41:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@THEY0Y0MAN](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/THEY0Y0MAN)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/1 "2015-09-25T02:41:49Z")
Which one has better stability and good with grinds but also good with smooth, fast, constructive, slack, rejection, and horizontal play?
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### Author:  [@turtlecircle](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/turtlecircle)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/2 "2015-09-25T02:59:03Z")
From what I’ve seen as a general consensus the horizon has all of those qualities.
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### Author:  [@AngryGumball](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AngryGumball)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/3 "2015-09-25T05:35:00Z")
The Horizon and CzPoint is like comparing apples to oranges. The Horizon is huge. If you have smaller hands, it may be a bit clunky to work with. It’s also not the most comfy shape but it is quite a powerhouse of a spinner. It also feels like a tank on a string, slower player.
The CzPoint is more of a comfortable size to work with and plays faster than the Horizon. If you’re wanting to go faster, I’d go with a 'Point.
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### Author:  [@anon5341354](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anon5341354)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/4 "2015-09-25T06:26:15Z")
I wouldn’t say it feels like a tank, it’s actually a fairly quick player for its size and weight. But it sure feels real solid.
I pretty much only really throw mine for great H grinding.
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### Author:  [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/5 "2015-09-26T00:34:30Z")
I personally don’t like the Horizon, but it’s fun to fingerspin.
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### Author:  [@GregP](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/GregP)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2015, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/czech-point-vs-horizon/77088/6 "2015-09-26T00:36:40Z")
Whereas I can fingerspin on other yoyos just fine but haven’t got the knack of the Horizon yet. But it’s a successful and fun yoyo for me because it’s still great to play even without the fingerspins. If the fingerspins were the only thing it had going for it, I would be “meh” on it… but it’s a good yoyo in general!