# Cypher bs. Shutter

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924
**Category:** Looking for Help/Recommendation
**Created:** [January 13, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924 "2015-01-13T15:00:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 5
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### Author: ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924/1 "2015-01-13T15:00:19Z")

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The title says it all. I already have most of the other Yoyofactory budget metals, and I like the shu-ta and Too HOT best. My play style is more slowish and I do a lot of horizontal. Is the cypher good for horizontal?

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### Author: ![LeDave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/ledave/32/1590_2.png) [@LeDave](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/LeDave)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2015, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924/2 "2015-01-13T18:08:08Z")

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I have two Shutters and they are awesome! I’d imagine it being easier to do horizontals with Shutter based off it’s shape. But don’t count on me, wait for other peoples opinions!

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### Author: ![Eastfield](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eastfield/32/1158_2.png) [@Eastfield](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Eastfield)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924/3 "2015-01-13T19:30:56Z")

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Shutter shape looks like it’s probably the better shape for horizontal, but if you already have the Shu-ta then i would steer away from the Shutter. From your perspective it’s going to be a bad Shu-ta

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### Author: ![sparhawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@sparhawk](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/sparhawk)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924/4 "2015-01-13T19:33:22Z")

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Shu-Ta is better than the cypher at horizontal

Maybe try out a budget metal from another company like the C3 accelerator

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### Author: ![jjs77as6533](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjs77as6533](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jjs77as6533)
#### Post date: [January 13, 2015, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cypher-bs-shutter/71924/5 "2015-01-13T22:53:28Z")

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> [@sparhawk](#):
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> Shu-Ta is better than the cypher at horizontal
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> Maybe try out a budget metal from another company like the C3 accelerator

Just picked up the accelerator and level 6. They’re amazing aren’t they?