# Cubing Corner

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161
**Category:** Skill Toys
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2016, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1362 "2016-02-14T00:33:30Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> i don’t think so. 47 seconds is a lot harder to make up than the final 10

agreed. Have you ever practiced 3x3 without inspection? I imagine that would help in 5x5x5 (unless you use some sort of yau method).

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#### Post date: [February 14, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1363 "2016-02-14T05:22:03Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> agreed. Have you ever practiced 3x3 without inspection? I imagine that would help in 5x5x5 (unless you use some sort of yau method).

i haven’t specifically practiced it. But my cross is pretty good on 5x5. I can make crosses quite often even

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### Author: ![AGyoyo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/agyoyo/32/1457_2.png) [@AGyoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/AGyoyo)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1364 "2016-02-14T17:17:01Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> i don’t think so. 47 seconds is a lot harder to make up than the final 10

There has only been 30 people ever to get a sub 1 single on 5x5 in a wca competition. 30 people!!!

I feel like its going from 10 seconds to 3 seconds on 2x2. Going from 3 seconds to 2 seconds seems harder.  
But I guess its all preference.  
But don’t you feel like you start massively slowing down as you approach sub 1???  
Idk lol

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1365 "2016-02-14T17:56:51Z")

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> [@AGyoyo](#):
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> There has only been 30 people ever to get a sub 1 single on 5x5 in a wca competition. 30 people!!!
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> I feel like its going from 10 seconds to 3 seconds on 2x2. Going from 3 seconds to 2 seconds seems harder.  
> But I guess its all preference.  
> But don’t you feel like you start massively slowing down as you approach sub 1???  
> Idk lol

how many people have gotten sub-5? 🙂 But, yeah, I understand where you’re coming from.  
edit: whoops you said 2x2

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#### Post date: [February 14, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1366 "2016-02-14T21:06:23Z")

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> [@AGyoyo](#):
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> There has only been 30 people ever to get a sub 1 single on 5x5 in a wca competition. 30 people!!!
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> I feel like its going from 10 seconds to 3 seconds on 2x2. Going from 3 seconds to 2 seconds seems harder.  
> But I guess its all preference.  
> But don’t you feel like you start massively slowing down as you approach sub 1???  
> Idk lol

i get what you mean and the last ten would be harder than the previous 10 for sure. But 47 seconds is a lot to make up.  
I know guys that have gotten sub 1 singles after a few months of becoming serious about 5x5. And I certainly wouldn’t compare a sub 2 5x5 single to sub 10 on 2x2.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1367 "2016-02-15T18:43:10Z")

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what zbll cases are good to learn?

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#### Post date: [February 15, 2016, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1368 "2016-02-15T20:33:53Z")

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I like L’s the best cp recognize is super easy and ep isn’t to bad. After that T’s and U’s aren’t too bad. H has less algs but bad recognition. Most 2glls are nice to know as well.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 15, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1369 "2016-02-15T20:48:31Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> I like L’s the best cp recognize is super easy and ep isn’t to bad. After that T’s and U’s aren’t too bad. H has less algs but bad recognition. Most 2glls are nice to know as well.

thanks

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [February 18, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1370 "2016-02-18T00:38:47Z")

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I think I’m faster on stackmat than keyboard now.

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#### Post date: [February 19, 2016, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1371 "2016-02-19T07:02:07Z")

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Ugh why  
Should’ve been an official 8 easily  
Stupidest solve ever

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/1/1/9/1192e5ded4f57019262b4555d8016db725c4717e.jpeg "pls") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5izn9698Ipw)

F2l was like 10 moves

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1372 "2016-02-22T16:53:02Z")

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I’ve been trying to learn some 5 cycles. It’s not actually too complicated.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 22, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1373 "2016-02-22T22:27:10Z")

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is there an algorithm making site? That would be really helpful.

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#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1374 "2016-02-23T01:07:57Z")

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Cube explorer.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1375 "2016-02-23T02:18:57Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Cube explorer.

that has to be downloaded though, right? I’m using linux, not windows, if that means anything to you. So… does it still work?  
edit: never mind. Got my brother to do it for me… second edit: or not

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#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1376 "2016-02-23T04:07:12Z")

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Oh yeah. I don’t know but another one is ksolve+. That might also have to be downloaded though

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1377 "2016-02-23T18:10:48Z")

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I got it working, but just on a different computer. I don’t have access to the computer all the time, but that’s okay. Btw, is it possible to point out a certain move (such as M slices) without narrowing it down to anything?  
I’m just trying to figure out certain commutators. Did any of that make sense?

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#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1378 "2016-02-23T18:46:00Z")

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not sure if i get what you mean. you can filter out certain moves if thats what you mean. im not sure if cube explorer allows slices, havent been on it in a while.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1379 "2016-02-23T19:11:05Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> not sure if i get what you mean. you can filter out certain moves if thats what you mean. im not sure if cube explorer allows slices, havent been on it in a while.

oh. Yeah it allows slices. I just wish there was something that involved set up moves. I’m trying to figure out some 5 cycles, but the intuitional 5 cycles are longer than the computed ones. It’s like 5 more moves per cycle.

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#### Post date: [February 23, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1380 "2016-02-23T21:01:26Z")

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This is driving me crazy. Seriously, has no one ever thought of a 5 cycle before? I can’t find even the slightest hint of that anywhere.  
Could you try to help me with this?  
M B E’ B’ M F M’ B E B’ M’ F’  
I’m trying to figure out if there’s any intuition behind this. And how I can figure this out with similar enough cases.

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#### Post date: [February 24, 2016, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1381 "2016-02-24T00:21:06Z")

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have you all seen the new uwr. Set by the one and only:

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/0/e/a0efad7989aa93d2530eca907a5fcd2e6bd8a8c2.jpeg "2x2-7x7 Rubik's cube relay: 5:41.09") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWu9VNshtk)

or

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/a/0/e/a0efad7989aa93d2530eca907a5fcd2e6bd8a8c2.jpeg "2x2-7x7 Rubik's cube relay: 5:41.09") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWu9VNshtk)

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