# Cubing Corner

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161
**Category:** Skill Toys
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1002 "2015-07-23T21:11:45Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Was that full memo?  
> And I’m having a bit of trouble with edges, I might pm you.  
> 1000th post in this thread.

Yeah. Can you tell me whether you use m2 or old pochmann for edges? I was hoping to get 1000. Rats.

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2015, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1003 "2015-07-24T05:58:18Z")

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I use m2 I believe  
You’ve gotten quite fast. Sub 30 4bld I presume?

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1004 "2015-07-24T12:51:42Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> I use m2 I believe  
> You’ve gotten quite fast. Sub 30 4bld I presume?

Seconds? _gasps_ But yeah, I guess that’s about it. I have a bunch of questions for you

1. Just want you to be sure you’re using m2, old pochmann uses algorithms, m2 uses none (except for maybe parity, I never learned M2 fully). So does it make sense that M2 is what you’re using?
2. What’s your letter scheme? Please be very careful in describing this so I don’t have to ask again. For example, if, for corners, your U face has A, B, C, and D, tell me maybe that the top right (or left) sticker is A and it goes clockwise, and that the F face starts with E and so on. Do the same for edges. Or maybe show me a video that you use. If you’re not using a letter scheme, learn one.
3. Can I give you a scramble and memo to see if you’ve got the hang of execution? Because it looks to me like you need help on memo.
4. Can I see the tutorial you’re using?

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#### Post date: [July 24, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1005 "2015-07-24T20:31:14Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> Seconds? _gasps_ But yeah, I guess that’s about it. I have a bunch of questions for you
> 
> 1. Just want you to be sure you’re using m2, old pochmann uses algorithms, m2 uses none (except for maybe parity, I never learned M2 fully). So does it make sense that M2 is what you’re using?
> 2. What’s your letter scheme? Please be very careful in describing this so I don’t have to ask again. For example, if, for corners, your U face has A, B, C, and D, tell me maybe that the top right (or left) sticker is A and it goes clockwise, and that the F face starts with E and so on. Do the same for edges. Or maybe show me a video that you use. If you’re not using a letter scheme, learn one.
> 3. Can I give you a scramble and memo to see if you’ve got the hang of execution? Because it looks to me like you need help on memo.
> 4. Can I see the tutorial you’re using?

Yes I am using m2 for edges.  
Letter scheme is for corners. It goes in alphabetical order, from top left as a, top right b, bottom left c, bottom right d. So that order for each side. Edges are the same but just clockwise on each side.

I haven’t really started memo yet. Just doing sighted solves ATM.but for edges, the buffer piece is db and it swaps with bu, correct?. Sometimes I put the edges in flipped, and I don’t know how to fix this problem. I mean I can’t do the right set up moves. I hope that makes sense.  
I am using Noah Arthur’s cubing world tutorial.

For my letter scheme I can make a video tonight. I can’t really explain it well enough.

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#### Post date: [July 25, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1006 "2015-07-25T20:49:08Z")

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Woohoo!

D2 B2 R2 D’ L2 F2 U’ L2 U R2 D R’ F’ L B U B’ R2 D2 F’ L2

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F B L2 U’ L’ //5

y2

U’ R’ F R L2 D’ //11

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R’ U R U’ R2 U R // 18

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R’ U’ R2 B’ R’ B //24

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R U2 R D R’ U2 R D’ R2 U //34

Fmc pb. I could likely get around 31 if I inserted a different 3 cycle earlier but I’m to lazy to look for one.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2015, 11:54pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1007 "2015-07-26T23:54:56Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Yes I am using m2 for edges.  
> Letter scheme is for corners. It goes in alphabetical order, from top left as a, top right b, bottom left c, bottom right d. So that order for each side. Edges are the same but just clockwise on each side.
> 
> I haven’t really started memo yet. Just doing sighted solves ATM.but for edges, the buffer piece is db and it swaps with bu, correct?. Sometimes I put the edges in flipped, and I don’t know how to fix this problem. I mean I can’t do the right set up moves. I hope that makes sense.  
> I am using Noah Arthur’s cubing world tutorial.
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> For my letter scheme I can make a video tonight. I can’t really explain it well enough.

Your buffer should be DF and your target UB.

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#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1008 "2015-07-27T00:23:13Z")

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Sorry that’s what I meant. I’m dumb lol.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1009 "2015-07-27T11:48:37Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Yes I am using m2 for edges.  
> Letter scheme is for corners. It goes in alphabetical order, from top left as a, top right b, bottom left c, bottom right d. So that order for each side. Edges are the same but just clockwise on each side.
> 
> I haven’t really started memo yet. Just doing sighted solves ATM.but for edges, the buffer piece is db and it swaps with bu, correct?. Sometimes I put the edges in flipped, and I don’t know how to fix this problem. I mean I can’t do the right set up moves. I hope that makes sense.  
> I am using Noah Arthur’s cubing world tutorial.
> 
> For my letter scheme I can make a video tonight. I can’t really explain it well enough.

Letter scheme’s a lot quicker than just sighted.

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#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1010 "2015-07-27T15:07:49Z")

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I’m just working on execution and learning how the method works I mean, with my eyes open.

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#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1011 "2015-07-27T15:17:32Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> I’m just working on execution and learning how the method works I mean, with my eyes open.

Oh, I see. Haha, get it?

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#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1012 "2015-07-27T16:01:30Z")

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43.9 OH. I think that’s a pb (but I’m sure I’ve beaten that when I haven’t been timing).

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#### Post date: [July 27, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1013 "2015-07-27T16:50:29Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> Oh, I see. Haha, get it?

topbanter

That’s definitely a respectable time OH.

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#### Post date: [July 28, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1014 "2015-07-28T15:30:42Z")

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I’m actually doing really well with f2l right now. It’s so much easier than roux. I just got a 22.86, so I’m feeling pretty good right now.

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#### Post date: [July 28, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1015 "2015-07-28T15:41:42Z")

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That’s the thing with cfop, it’s easier to get fast at first. Great job. And look ahead is hard with roux.

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#### Post date: [July 28, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1016 "2015-07-28T16:34:02Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> That’s the thing with cfop, it’s easier to get fast at first. Great job. And look ahead is hard with roux.

totally

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1017 "2015-07-29T03:50:55Z")

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Yayyyy! 16.12 ao5 one handed pb!

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1018 "2015-07-29T14:56:55Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Yayyyy! 16.12 ao5 one handed pb!

I can’t beat that with two hands no average haha

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1019 "2015-07-29T14:57:28Z")

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I’m getting a little faster at feet

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1020 "2015-07-29T16:28:24Z")

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Lol feet. What’s your pb? I’ve only done two solves ever but mine was pretty lucky. Winter variation and a u perm. 5:30 or something

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#### Post date: [July 29, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1021 "2015-07-29T18:55:38Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Lol feet. What’s your pb? I’ve only done two solves ever but mine was pretty lucky. Winter variation and a u perm. 5:30 or something

Probably a little under 5 minutes for me. roux is waaaaay better though. Plenty of time to look ahead when you’re traveling at my speed haha. Btw, just got a 20.48 using f2l. That’s my f2l best

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