# Cubing Corner

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161
**Category:** Skill Toys
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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#### Post date: [July 13, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/982 "2015-07-13T02:38:08Z")

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Not a great average, it had the potential to be great though. The first two solves could have been low tens, and if I hadn’t failed recognition for coll on the last solve, it could’ve been a lot faster. Oh well, best on cam by a lot.

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/4/a/f/4af6d1c1fb01d8684ae5bfe8b242c42638d401ec.jpeg "12.39 Fail Ao5") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQTRakTU60)

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### Author: ![Yoyordy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8c91f0/32.png) [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)
#### Post date: [July 13, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/983 "2015-07-13T03:38:03Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Not a great average, it had the potential to be great though. The first two solves could have been low tens, and if I hadn’t failed recognition for coll on the last solve, it could’ve been a lot faster. Oh well, best on cam by a lot.  
> [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQTRakTU60](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQTRakTU60)

“Fail” Dude you are awesome

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#### Post date: [July 14, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/984 "2015-07-14T02:09:06Z")

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Bleh, I just wanted to get a sub 12 avg on cam before I left on vacation and I kept failing, locking up, define, etc. it wasn’t a fun time.

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### Author: ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/985 "2015-07-14T02:10:24Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Bleh, I just wanted to get a sub 12 avg on cam before I left on vacation and I kept failing, locking up, define, etc. it wasn’t a fun time.

Cubing can be the most frustrating thing ever.

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#### Post date: [July 14, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/986 "2015-07-14T03:17:06Z")

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> [@Someone](#):
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> Cubing can be the most frustrating thing ever.

especially on cam. Your heart started racing and your hands start shaking.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/987 "2015-07-14T14:34:15Z")

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What’s everybody’s 2x2x2 averages? Mine’s 7.92. Haven’t done too many though.

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#### Post date: [July 15, 2015, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/988 "2015-07-15T05:22:07Z")

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Single 0.43  
Ao5 1.68  
Ao12 2.33  
Ao100 3.34  
To be completely honest, 2x2 is probably my best event. So embarrassing…

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/989 "2015-07-15T19:41:42Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Single 0.43  
> Ao5 1.68  
> Ao12 2.33  
> Ao100 3.34  
> To be completely honest, 2x2 is probably my best event. So embarrassing…

why’s that embarrassing? how do you solve it? bottom layer then cll?  
Couldn’t you just for the 3x3x3 solve corners and then use commutators for edges? It might be a little slower than normal solving, but I’d like to see how long it would take you.

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#### Post date: [July 18, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/990 "2015-07-18T00:49:03Z")

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Yeah I’ve tried it that way. But I’m super slow with it. It’s embarrassing because I spend 1\10 of my practice time on it and I’m way better at it than 3x3.

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#### Post date: [July 19, 2015, 5:47am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/991 "2015-07-19T05:47:32Z")

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I’ve found out a method to improve past the 13-11 sec barrier that has worked for me. This really only applies for cfop. Turn at 3-5 tps for cross and first 2 pairs, once you spot your third pair, crank up the tps and try to look ahead into your fourth pair. After that keep the tps high until the end of ill. In the last few moves slow down, and attempt to reduce the pause between oll and pll. So if anyone is stuck at this speed I hope this helps.

Oh and Stuart, I use Ortega with a lbl and opposite layer bias with half of cll. If I use anti cll I will first check if it is a sune or antisune. If it isn’t, I will R2 F2 R2 then use cll. If it is, I will do oll then pbl.

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### Author: ![Yoyordy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8c91f0/32.png) [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/992 "2015-07-19T19:27:20Z")

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Well I got a new best of 43.95 using Cross, Beginners F2L, and 4LLL, but using F2l I got 1:36.73

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#### Post date: [July 19, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/993 "2015-07-19T21:26:12Z")

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Nice!  
If anyone wants to see some crazy solves, check out Feliks zemdegs channel over the next few days. 5 sub 6 solves in four rounds at worlds.

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#### Post date: [July 20, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/994 "2015-07-20T00:29:16Z")

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Last week, I’ve bought a Rubick’s Cube from Walmart, and I’ve already know how to solve it. I’m just beginning, but what are some recommendations for cubes that can take me to a more advanced level?

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#### Post date: [July 20, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/995 "2015-07-20T01:21:52Z")

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Pretty much any speedcube. I started with a 55 mm zhanchi, and I. Have recently switched back to it after trying many moyu cubes.yj Guanlong is really good, and only 3 bucks, I am really interested in the qiyi thunderclap, which I would get. Hualong is really good. If you need help deciding, pm me and I’ll give my narrowed reccomendations.

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#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/996 "2015-07-22T03:24:30Z")

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Stuart, I am trying blind again lol, and I am having trouble with what I think are called cycle breaks. Could you explain what you do when you break into a new cycle and how to detect it in memo.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/997 "2015-07-22T12:13:44Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Stuart, I am trying blind again lol, and I am having trouble with what I think are called cycle breaks. Could you explain what you do when you break into a new cycle and how to detect it in memo.

I’ll use a corner cycle for example. I’m assuming your buffer is UBL. Let’s say your memorization is UBR, DBL, BUL- don’t memorize BUL, that’s the piece that’s supposed to be solved at the very end. Pick a piece that hasn’t been mentally solved, and pick a sticker on it. So now it’s UBR, DBL, BDR, RDF, DBR- stop. BDR and DBR are on the same piece, but do memorize DBR. UBR, DBL, BDR, RDF, DBR, FUL, LDF, FUR, and FUL, LUF, or ULF (doesn’t really matter). You have parity. If you need more of an explanation I’d be happy to oblige.

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#### Post date: [July 22, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/998 "2015-07-22T16:49:02Z")

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Do you use m2 for edges?

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 23, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/999 "2015-07-23T12:52:36Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Do you use m2 for edges?

I use a modified M2 3-stylish method. It’s almost as good as 3-style, it just adds one or two more moves onto the commutators.

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#### Post date: [July 23, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1000 "2015-07-23T19:33:12Z")

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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Fgkfocj7E)

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#### Post date: [July 23, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/1001 "2015-07-23T20:46:45Z")

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Was that full memo?  
And I’m having a bit of trouble with edges, I might pm you.  
1000th post in this thread.

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