# Cubing Corner

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161
**Category:** Skill Toys
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/962 "2015-06-30T23:39:11Z")

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This is getting so crazy annoying. I’m making three attempts a day and all of them are getting so ridiculously close. It’s driving me crazy.

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/963 "2015-07-01T03:13:24Z")

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Don’t worry, you’ll get it. It took roman strakhov 19 attempts to get a 9bld I think.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/964 "2015-07-01T11:37:16Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Don’t worry, you’ll get it. It took roman strakhov 19 attempts to get a 9bld I think.

Yeah, I hope it’s soon though, I’m getting sick of this 6x6x6.

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### Author: ![yoyomaster3456](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c77e96/32.png) [@yoyomaster3456](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyomaster3456)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/965 "2015-07-01T15:45:06Z")

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2x2 ao5 is 20.xx with a pb of 9.oo and 3x3 a05 is 45.xx with a pb of 33.xx

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/966 "2015-07-01T16:33:39Z")

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Learn ortega for 2x2. You’ll easily get a sub 10 avg.

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### Author: ![Yoyordy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8c91f0/32.png) [@Yoyordy](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyordy)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/967 "2015-07-01T17:22:11Z")

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Ok sorry for being such a noob but do you memorize OLL and PLL?

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### Author: ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)
#### Post date: [July 1, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/968 "2015-07-01T17:52:30Z")

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> [@Yoyordy](#):
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> Ok sorry for being such a noob but do you memorize OLL and PLL?

What do you mean?

You would of course want to memorize them all, but start with 2 look so you only have to learn a minimal amount of algs.

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 2, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/969 "2015-07-02T01:56:20Z")

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> [@Yoyordy](#):
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> Ok sorry for being such a noob but do you memorize OLL and PLL?

just do them over and over until they are in your muscle memory.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/970 "2015-07-05T23:38:53Z")

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For big cubes, is it faster to solve six edges at a time, or to solve a whole row of edges by not putting the center pieces back to solved until eight edge rows are solved? (Was that to confusing?)

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2015, 11:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/971 "2015-07-05T23:46:40Z")

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I think it’s ad best to use free slice on big cubes. So basically just pairing up a whole bunch as you see them I think. But your probably better than me at big cubes.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/972 "2015-07-06T01:33:44Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> I think it’s ad best to use free slice on big cubes. So basically just pairing up a whole bunch as you see them I think. But your probably better than me at big cubes.

Ok. I guess I’ll just have to time it then.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/973 "2015-07-06T21:48:53Z")

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Know any good advanced big cube tutorials?

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 6, 2015, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/974 "2015-07-06T23:56:53Z")

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Just learned kenneth’s big cube method, which is a direct solving method for cubes. It’s basically roux for big cubes.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/975 "2015-07-07T00:44:41Z")

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I’m pretty sure this is my record for the 4x4x4, 1:57.22 using ^^^ method

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/976 "2015-07-07T05:21:51Z")

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Cool. Have you tried yau?

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/977 "2015-07-07T12:16:04Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Cool. Have you tried yau?

I think so. Isn’t it just solving the cross with edge pairing? It seems like a pathetic advantage. Maybe I’m missing the rest of the method or something.

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#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/978 "2015-07-07T14:33:58Z")

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The advantage isn’t the cross skip, but the lookahead that it allows you. All your edges are solved on the bottom,so you don’t have to do a x2 rotation or look on the bottom layer. When pairing edges you only need to look on the top and middle row. Plus it allows for 3-2-3 edge pairing which is really good on 4x4.  
There’s a reason why all the top 4x4 solvers use yau.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/979 "2015-07-07T20:42:08Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> The advantage isn’t the cross skip, but the lookahead that it allows you. All your edges are solved on the bottom,so you don’t have to do a x2 rotation or look on the bottom layer. When pairing edges you only need to look on the top and middle row. Plus it allows for 3-2-3 edge pairing which is really good on 4x4.  
> There’s a reason why all the top 4x4 solvers use yau.

Maybe… but you forget I don’t use f2l. But yeah, if there were a roux version of that I would try it.

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### Author: ![Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/pineapple_jumpsuit/32/1431_2.png) [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Pineapple_Jumpsuit)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/980 "2015-07-07T22:23:21Z")

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I have an idea. I can make a video tonight or we can discuss it through pm. Also you may want to try Hoya or k4.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [July 7, 2015, 11:06pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/981 "2015-07-07T23:06:24Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> I have an idea. I can make a video tonight or we can discuss it through pm. Also you may want to try Hoya or k4.

Try a pm.

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