# Cubing Corner

**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161
**Category:** Skill Toys
**Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/802 "2015-03-27T16:51:21Z")

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I started learning pi case for cmll and it’s soooo easy. They all use the same basic ideas that I’ve learned in cmll already. I’m hoping that it’s that easy with sune, anti-sune, and bow-tie

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#### Post date: [March 27, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/803 "2015-03-27T18:02:29Z")

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Those are the hardest for coll, in fact I didn’t bother to learn sune antisune. Bow ties weird for coll but I’m sure it’ll be fine for cmll.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 27, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/804 "2015-03-27T19:36:39Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Those are the hardest for coll, in fact I didn’t bother to learn sune antisune. Bow ties weird for coll but I’m sure it’ll be fine for cmll.

I actually started antisune just a bit ago (like 10 minutes lol) and it doesn’t seem that hard (for roux), because anti-niklas is one algorithm and anti sune is another, so I kind of already know 2 right off the bat. I’m assuming for F2l the algorithms are a lot longer so as to preserve the edge orientation. Oh, btw, I’m using this site: [http://lubixcube.com/CMLL.html](http://lubixcube.com/CMLL.html)  
You know what I’d really like? After I’ve learned cmll, a list of algorithms that solve the cube from there. Would there be too many? Do they have something like this?

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#### Post date: [March 27, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/805 "2015-03-27T23:47:45Z")

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Eh I don’t know about that but you could force easier cases for the next step using ollcp. I know kirjava and 5bld ( on Speedsolving) do this. Kirjava is sub 10 and 5bld was sub 7 at one point. ( Alex Lau)

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/806 "2015-03-28T01:51:46Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Eh I don’t know about that but you could force easier cases for the next step using ollcp. I know kirjava and 5bld ( on Speedsolving) do this. Kirjava is sub 10 and 5bld was sub 7 at one point. ( Alex Lau)

Okay

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#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/807 "2015-03-28T05:34:26Z")

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> [@stuarttw](#):
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> Okay

if you want a more in depth explanation you can ask but for now i think it’s okay. What alg do you use for the 2 bad edges case where there is one on top and one on bottom?

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/808 "2015-03-28T12:24:00Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> if you want a more in depth explanation you can ask but for now i think it’s okay. What alg do you use for the 2 bad edges case where there is one on top and one on bottom?

I put the bad edge on top to the side, M whichever way puts 3 bad edges on top (and a bad center), point that arrow towards the area the M came from, and do the M the other way, and I have my arrow (I’m going to assume you know what the arrow is).

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#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/809 "2015-03-28T14:45:05Z")

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Okay thanks

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/810 "2015-03-28T15:43:26Z")

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Btw, how’s blind going?

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#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/811 "2015-03-28T16:12:45Z")

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Badly, I’ve given it up for now to work on Colour neutrality.

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/812 "2015-03-28T16:38:06Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Badly, I’ve given it up for now to work on Colour neutrality.

Were you using m2 for edges or old pochmann? If you’re using m2, I would totally suggest switching because old pochmann is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much easier.

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#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/813 "2015-03-28T17:57:18Z")

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Pochman, but my memo was just terrible. I’ll try again, but I have a competition in two months and I want to podium so I’m practicing hard for oh and 3x3. Do you do any OH?

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 28, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/814 "2015-03-28T19:55:15Z")

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> [@Pineapple\_Jumpsuit](#):
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> Pochman, but my memo was just terrible. I’ll try again, but I have a competition in two months and I want to podium so I’m practicing hard for oh and 3x3. Do you do any OH?

No. I don’t like hydroxide that much. But as to what you were really asking, no, not that much. I can do it under 5 minutes, but I’ve never learned how to do it properly.

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#### Post date: [March 29, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/815 "2015-03-29T00:20:11Z")

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Oh, it’s my favorite event by far.

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#### Post date: [March 29, 2015, 3:03am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/816 "2015-03-29T03:03:58Z")

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Vgj on that 4bld success on cam

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#### Post date: [March 29, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/817 "2015-03-29T11:42:03Z")

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> [@Pineapple Jumpsuit](#):
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> Vgj on that 4bld success on cam

This?

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/b/4/5/b458fbc779b014727ff7ac322b572a1c78e32b7e.jpeg "4x4x4 blind success") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZunFfPp_lo)

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#### Post date: [March 29, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/818 "2015-03-29T14:37:13Z")

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Yeah

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### Author: ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/819 "2015-03-29T19:20:31Z")

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Did you use a tutorial for oh? Or did you just figure it out for yourself?

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#### Post date: [March 30, 2015, 12:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/820 "2015-03-30T00:51:31Z")

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Kind of, I looked it up when I just had a rubiks brand and then when I got an actual cube I remembered the basics. I would reccomend asmallkitten YouTube channel and look for tutorials.

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#### Post date: [March 30, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/821 "2015-03-30T14:58:55Z")

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How does a blind work! XD

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