# Cubing Corner **URL:** \ **Category:** Skill Toys\ **Created:** [July 17, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161 "2011-07-17T18:34:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/281 "2013-11-03T03:20:47Z")
[quote=“stuarttw,post:280,topic:28161”] When it comes to roux compared to cfop, in orienting the corners, which of the seven algorithms are the same in both situations? [/quote For CO it would be the cases you would use for 2 look CFOP after you orient the top edges. So like headlights, chameleon, how tie, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Zorro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/zorro/32/206266_2.png) [@Zorro](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Zorro)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/282 "2013-11-03T19:42:15Z")
Where can I get one of these? ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/283 "2013-11-03T20:22:10Z")
> [@Zorro](#): > > Where can I get one of these? A cube? [thecubicle.us](http://thecubicle.us) sells them. ---
**Author:** ![yoyofactoryfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/839c29/32.png) [@yoyofactoryfan](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyofactoryfan)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/284 "2013-11-04T23:10:56Z")
what should i get as my first speed cube? ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/285 "2013-11-04T23:18:58Z")
> [@yoyofactoryfan](#): > > what should i get as my first speed cube? YJ Sulong is a good choice. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoboy224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/f14d63/32.png) [@yoyoboy224](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoboy224)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/286 "2013-11-05T04:31:11Z")
and the zanchi (Stickerless) ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/287 "2013-11-08T02:27:02Z")
Eh… Sulong is better. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/288 "2013-11-12T21:34:06Z")
Anyone know how to do a 5_5_5? I think i can do one, even though i’ve never touched one. I’ll try to get one at penn states. ---
**Author:** ![zigzag97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ec8ea/32.png) [@zigzag97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zigzag97)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/289 "2013-11-13T14:36:13Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Anyone know how to do a 5_5_5? I think i can do one, even though i’ve never touched one. I’ll try to get one at penn states. I can do the 5x5x5, ca. You do the 4x4x4? Because they are both way different than the normal cube ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/290 "2013-11-13T15:18:56Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Anyone know how to do a 5_5_5? I think i can do one, even though i’ve never touched one. I’ll try to get one at penn states. Reduction Method. Solve centers, edges, then like a 3x3. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/291 "2013-11-13T18:34:30Z")
> [@kclejeune](#): > > Reduction Method. Solve centers, edges, then like a 3x3. I thought i saw or heard once that 4_4_4 is harder to learn than a 5_5_5. Do you have to deal with parity on a 5_5_5? ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/292 "2013-11-13T22:46:49Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > I thought i saw or heard once that 4_4_4 is harder to learn than a 5_5_5. Do you have to deal with parity on a 5_5_5? Well, that’s a somewhat two answer question. Edge pairing is more difficult on 5x5, but there is only one type of parity vs 3 on 4x4. With a 4x4, you can have a case where just two edges need to be swapped. You can have this on 5x5 also. The next two are the ones that make lives miserable. There is OLL parity, where there is one unoriented edge after f2l. PLL parity is when two edges need to be swapped after OLL. The other parity case you get with 5x5 is also on the edges. It’s where you have all edges solved, but the ‘wing’ pieces of one are flipped. That’s the equivalent of OLL parity. There’s an alg for this also. However, after that is over on 5x5, there is no more parity possible and you just solve as a 3x3. ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/293 "2013-11-14T00:12:05Z")
> [@kclejeune](#): > > Well, that’s a somewhat two answer question. Edge pairing is more difficult on 5x5, but there is only one type of parity vs 3 on 4x4. With a 4x4, you can have a case where just two edges need to be swapped. You can have this on 5x5 also. The next two are the ones that make lives miserable. There is OLL parity, where there is one unoriented edge after f2l. PLL parity is when two edges need to be swapped after OLL. The other parity case you get with 5x5 is also on the edges. It’s where you have all edges solved, but the ‘wing’ pieces of one are flipped. That’s the equivalent of OLL parity. There’s an alg for this also. However, after that is over on 5x5, there is no more parity possible and you just solve as a 3x3. So which parity do you have to deal with on the 5_5_5? Is it edge pairing, the super long algorithm whose parity i don’t know what to call, or the last algorithm which swaps two edges? ---
**Author:** ![Logi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/logi/32/7932_2.png) [@Logi](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Logi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/294 "2013-11-15T01:23:33Z")
I’m working on 2 LOOK OLL. ---
**Author:** ![zigzag97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ec8ea/32.png) [@zigzag97](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/zigzag97)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 2:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/295 "2013-11-15T02:31:52Z")
Guys. I got 9.77 seconds!!! Sooo stoked ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/296 "2013-11-15T02:35:17Z")
> [@zigzag97](#): > > Guys. I got 9.77 seconds!!! Sooo stoked Good job man! First sub 10 feels so great! ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/297 "2013-11-27T00:08:20Z")
> [@zigzag97](#): > > Guys. I got 9.77 seconds!!! Sooo stoked Whoa! It’ll be a while before i get there. ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/298 "2013-11-27T04:01:16Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Whoa! It’ll be a while before i get there. You will though :wink: ---
**Author:** ![stuarttw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stuarttw](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/stuarttw)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/299 "2013-11-28T00:11:18Z")
> [@kclejeune](#): > > You will though :wink: Hopefully… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Casey888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Casey888](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Casey888)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161/300 "2013-11-28T00:43:37Z")
> [@stuarttw](#): > > Hopefully… 😛 Just 3 months ago I didn’t think I’d ever be able to sub 10 at all. Now I have a sub 10 ao5. Trust me, you’ll get there :wink: [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161.md?page=14) [Next page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/cubing-corner/28161.md?page=16)