# Counterweights
**URL:** https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301
**Category:** General Yo-Yo
**Created:** [January 19, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301 "2013-01-19T03:51:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 19
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### Author:  [@Lukoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lukoyo)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/21 "2013-01-26T09:06:47Z")
I think I will make one of those wasp nests. I have so many old used strings lying around I may as well do something with them. It looks quite easy to make, I will post a pic on here of the finished product.
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### Author:  [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/22 "2013-01-26T09:48:27Z")
> [@yoyo\_creep](#):
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> -get a die (3/4"-1" sides. Rounded corners if you don’t want to mess up your hands or bang up your yoyo.) Take it to a c-clamp, vice grip, whatever. Draw an “X” from corner to corner, and drill where the lines intersect. Or, even better, use a drill. Press.
why would you have to draw an x from corner to corner? 3 sides already have a dot perfectly in the center, most often with a small divot to get you started.
When I used dice, I just took 2d6, drilled a hole through the 1 side using a drill bit the same size as the divot (I think 1/4", or 3/16, but I don’t remember anymore) and put both dice on.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 9:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/23 "2013-01-26T09:53:19Z")
Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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### Author:  [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/24 "2013-01-26T10:00:23Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#):
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> Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
Jake Elliot actually makes (or atleast used to make) delrin cws that did the same thing. Not sure how much he charges/charged though.
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### Author:  [@TheYoYoist101](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheYoYoist101)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/25 "2013-01-26T13:09:40Z")
If you go to a casino in the gift shops they sell used craps table dice and they drill holes in them for security reasons. I bought like 5 from legends.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/26 "2013-01-26T15:42:09Z")
> [@iYoyo58](#):
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> Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
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### Author:  [@matttt55](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/matttt55)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/27 "2013-01-26T17:57:49Z")
> [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
The whole ball-bearing thing makes it worth that amount of money.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/28 "2013-01-26T18:55:07Z")
> [@matttt55](#):
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> > [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> > right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
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> The whole ball-bearing thing makes it worth that amount of money.
I tried it. it wasn’t special. it’s just a gimmick.
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### Author:  [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/29 "2013-01-26T20:43:03Z")
> [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > [@matttt55](#):
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> > > [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > > > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > > > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> > > right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
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> > The whole ball-bearing thing makes it worth that amount of money.
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> I tried it. it wasn’t special. it’s just a gimmick.
That’s true. I have one and there are very few tricks you can do with it that you can’t do with a normal CW. And the ones that you can do with it are pretty hard unless you practice forever.
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### Author:  [@MYNAMEISZen](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MYNAMEISZen)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/30 "2013-01-27T00:06:18Z")
My grandpa used his drill press and put a hole in a dice for me today:D
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### Author:  [@key2007](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/key2007)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/31 "2013-01-27T01:25:45Z")
Any body know any yoyos that come with counter weights I.e. Pinnicle
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### Author:  [@MrSquirrel](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/MrSquirrel)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/32 "2013-01-27T01:31:52Z")
> [@key2007](#):
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> Any body know any yoyos that come with counter weights I.e. Pinnicle
YYJ Destiny comes with a Takeshi Die and the Diamont Noir Celestial Deuxieme cones with a CW.
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### Author:  [@dynikus](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/dynikus)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 2:33am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/33 "2013-01-27T02:33:15Z")
> [@key2007](#):
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> Any body know any yoyos that come with counter weights I.e. Pinnicle
most cheap duncan yoyos do. other than that, pinnacle, destiny, and noir celestial deuxieme are the only ones I know of.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/34 "2013-01-27T07:04:19Z")
> [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
yes, it’s a ball bearing counter wieght.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/35 "2013-01-27T07:05:33Z")
> [@MrSquirrel](#):
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> > [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > > [@matttt55](#):
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> > > > > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > > > > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> > > > right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
> > >
> > > The whole ball-bearing thing makes it worth that amount of money.
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> > I tried it. it wasn’t special. it’s just a gimmick.
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> That’s true. I have one and there are very few tricks you can do with it that you can’t do with a normal CW. And the ones that you can do with it are pretty hard unless you practice forever.
Takeshi Matsura is definitely extreme then.
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### Author:  [@anonyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/anonyo)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/36 "2013-01-27T07:06:14Z")
> [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > [@matttt55](#):
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> > > [@Pajama Man 8398](#):
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> > > > [@iYoyo58](#):
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> > > > Steve Brown actually just drilled a hole through a die. If your gonna consider buying a cw buy a Takeshi Counter weight. I believe it is a “ball bearing” type counter weight so that the string doesn’t tangle. Along with the cw. Or you can buy a Duncan cw doesn’t matter but the Takeshi Counter Wieght is the best bang for your buck.
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> > > right. because one CW that costs the same as three is definitely the best bang for your buck.
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> > The whole ball-bearing thing makes it worth that amount of money.
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> I tried it. it wasn’t special. it’s just a gimmick.
than you should give it to me.
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### Author:  [@abby1371](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/abby1371)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/37 "2013-01-27T13:39:43Z")
I saw AJ Kirk play with his ringmaster, his signature throw and I played with it a little and Its an awesome throw for 5a.
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### Author:  [@Jake\_Elliott](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Jake_Elliott)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/38 "2013-01-28T03:18:40Z")
On the bearing counterweights topic:
I’ve been making “bearingized counterweights” for quite a while now. I’ve many different materials, different sized bearings, different ways seat the bearing, fishing swivels, and many, many different variations and combinations.
Bearingized counterweights are not a gimmick. HOWEVER (this is a big however), they offer only very slight improvements if they are not made correctly.
The best setup I’ve found for a standard bearing counterweight (the takeshi dice is a “standard bearing counterweight”. The opposite would be a counterweight that uses a swivel of some sort) is a clean large bearing mounted about halfway down the counterweight.
The takeshi dice uses a small bearing (which works noticeably worse than a large bearing), has the bearing sitting very low in the counterweight (makes grabbing the dice for astro tricks unviable. Further, the edges that the string slides on aren’t rounded enough to make astro tricks easy) and has a lubed, non removable bearing that can’t be cleaned. Basically, they did everything wrong.
The takeshi dice is an interesting first step in bearingized counterweight design, but overall it leaves a lot to be desired. Honestly, its barely better than a standard duncan die. Yoyojam would do well to update the design.
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### Author:  [@Lordchootapa](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Lordchootapa)
#### Post date: [January 28, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/counterweights/48301/39 "2013-01-28T03:37:01Z")
I just make my own out of Femo and/or Sculpey clay. Bake em’ in the oven after poking a hole through them and you’ve got a nice counterweight. I mix colors and add glitter. They are nice n’ heavy and feel great. They look SICK, too.
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