# Completely flush side effects possible? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [September 21, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560 "2014-09-21T00:12:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:12am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/1 "2014-09-21T00:12:50Z")
Wondering if One Drop has ever considered trying to design a yoyo and side effect system that lays completely flush? Might be require a slight rethink, but seems entirely possible. The Yoyojoker EX system uses discs with O-rings that use friction to lock into the yoyo, leaving a flat surface. Combining that, with the side effect bearing post system, would be amazing. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/3/c/d3cbb6e7fc7ef94789f0c1b5b51ffd24add1bcd7.jpeg) - ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/d/c/6/dc6335711dcae1a3f50fec096cd37f29654d79e9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/2 "2014-09-21T00:18:34Z")
Ultralights lay flush, and side effects do use o rings in a similar fashion ---
**Author:** ![NathanC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nathanc/32/891_2.png) [@NathanC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/NathanC)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/3 "2014-09-21T00:22:39Z")
Well i guess technically they lay flush with the conical protrusion, but certainly not with the hub. I suppose you could make the body extremely thick to make them flush, but that would be heavy and terrible. I want this aesthetic: ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/uploads/yoyoexpert1/original/4X/9/e/e/9ee34d969cecc010e7860bd0c42e024e96bff059.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Nikolai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@Nikolai](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Nikolai)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/4 "2014-09-21T00:34:17Z")
> [@NathanC](#): > > Well i guess technically they lay flush with the conical protrusion, but certainly not with the hub. I suppose you could make the body extremely thick to make them flush, but that would be heavy and terrible. > > I want this aesthetic: > > [http://yoyonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/megatr10.jpg](http://yoyonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/megatr10.jpg) I think the point of the protrusion is so every side effect fits. They are made so they are all interchangeable ---
**Author:** ![DrAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/drawesome/32/1139_2.png) [@DrAwesome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/DrAwesome)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/5 "2014-09-21T00:42:50Z")
With how they do the current system you would have to raise the area around the system or have a very wide se. Both would add a lot of center weight, unless something lighter than aluminum was used. ---
**Author:** ![Yoyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/41988e/32.png) [@Yoyo](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/Yoyo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/6 "2014-09-21T00:53:06Z")
Shorter axle? Then they don’t need to be as long (the actual se). Edit: clarifying ---
**Author:** ![da5id](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/da5id/32/48214_2.png) [@da5id](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/da5id)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/completely-flush-side-effects-possible/69560/7 "2014-09-21T00:53:54Z")
> [@Nikolai](#): > > Ultralights lay flush, and side effects do use o rings in a similar fashion The Side Effect o-rings only serve one purpose: hold the Side Effect in place while screwing the yoyo together. They do not assist in locking the Side Effects - taper friction is the secret sauce for how it works.