# Competitive Throws - 2020 Honest Talk **URL:** \ **Category:** General Yo-Yo\ **Created:** [December 13, 2020, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109 "2020-12-13T11:38:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eternalmetal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/eternalmetal/32/44877_2.png) [@eternalmetal](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/eternalmetal)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 6:26pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/21 "2020-12-13T18:26:40Z")
> [@Ne0phy73](#): > > That’s a good “stop” to exit the compulsive shopping cycle for the best throw, and spend more time practising. From what ive seen this is what the winners all do. Find what works and practice it tons. You might come across a yoyo that might do it better, but I think minimizing time on variation will allow for the best improvement. Hell, even Gentry modified his yoyo enough to release his competition model, the one that recently won worlds. But when it comes down to it, the nuances in his change are subtle enough that you might not even notice (I got both). I think both Gentry and Evan are players to look at who gradually and mildly changed their yoyos to get an edge and win. Width and weight distribution on an established base yoyo are the two factors they most considered; probably an idea worth considering. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2020, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/22 "2020-12-13T19:52:06Z")
> [@yoyoerclutch](#): > > i personally don’t own any comp throws but from watching vids on yt i would say the edge or the yoyofreinds perigrine How do you not own any competition throws? Like none at all? It seems like most yoyo that aren’t fixed axle or higher wall organic are classified as “competition”. ---
**Author:** ![jhb8426](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/jhb8426/32/631_2.png) [@jhb8426](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/jhb8426)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/23 "2020-12-14T04:02:31Z")
> [@eternalmetal](#): > > Hm, here’s my 2 cents. Im assuming we are just talking 1A. Skill and routine are far more important than yoyo choice. So true. ---
**Author:** ![SR1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/sr1/32/104603_2.png) [@SR1](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/SR1)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/24 "2020-12-14T08:01:49Z")
As a musician and audio engineer, whenever I think about “competition yoyos”, I think of a saying I see all the time in the music/audio world. “Ear over gear” Which basically means, what you do with your gear/how you use it is more important than the gear itself. For example, a great musician should still be able to make great music using a cheap instrument. And I’d trust Bruce Swedien (RIP) to mix a record in a cheap home studio before I’d trust some dude who just learned Pro Tools with access to a multi-million dollar studio. And as a jazz drummer, I’d rather play on a cheap drum kit and know exactly what to play/serve the music over not knowing what to play but using a $10k drum kit. It’s not the gear being used, but rather who is using it. Jensen winning worlds in 2010 using a Northstar and Gentry’s wins on the Replay are the closest thing in the yoyo world that come to mind when I think of that phrase. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoerclutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@yoyoerclutch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoerclutch)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/25 "2020-12-14T14:49:29Z")
i own a iceberg,chezch piont pivot,shutter,cannon,atlas,skyva would you consider those comp??? @nightshadow ---
**Author:** ![TheThrowingGnome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/thethrowinggnome/32/14231_2.png) [@TheThrowingGnome](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/TheThrowingGnome)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/26 "2020-12-14T15:42:59Z")
The Shutter and Atlas have both been used to win world championships! ---
**Author:** ![nightshadow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex015/user_avatar/forums.yoyoexpert.com/nightshadow/32/1574_2.png) [@nightshadow](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/nightshadow)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/27 "2020-12-14T16:14:02Z")
Oh definitely. I think all of them but the Skyva are really solid competition throws! Great collection man. ---
**Author:** ![yoyoerclutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@yoyoerclutch](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/u/yoyoerclutch)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 9:27pm UTC](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109/28 "2020-12-14T21:27:34Z")
i am hoping to get 5 for xmas,then i will start a new thread called what is in your yoyo collection after xmas @nightshadow [Previous page](https://forums.yoyoexpert.com/t/competitive-throws-2020-honest-talk/331109.md?page=1)